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DjDATZ 08-16-2012 12:20 PM

And yet another one! :'(
 
http://jalopnik.com/5935304/dealersh...h-of-ownership

*sigh*

kanundrum 08-16-2012 12:25 PM

I think we need a Master FR-S/BRZ Wreck Thread. One Member a week will post I wrecked my FR-S./BRZ then we can start a club and get tshirts and all

DantKR 08-16-2012 12:26 PM

wtf happened there?

kendalldwhite 08-16-2012 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DantKR (Post 383425)
wtf happened there?

I'm guessing the car hit curb going sideways and bent axle- rear tire and rim inward

BRZranger 08-16-2012 12:29 PM

There should be a sticky of all wrecked BRZ / FRSs. Looks like most of them are from oversteer into objects, being rear-ended and in parking lots.

Good reminders as I prefer to learn from others' mistakes.

Turbowned 08-16-2012 12:30 PM

And people claim that the FR-S has "better" suspension than the BRZ - have we seen any wrecked BRZ's yet? I think it's gotta be just a little bit too twitchy for people's own good! Reminds me of the 1991-92 MR2's and their snap-oversteer issues.

MVJ1975 08-16-2012 12:34 PM

Yes, several wrecked BRZs in the "Another One Bites The Dust" thread.

TennisHsu 08-16-2012 01:41 PM

Unfortunately we are going to see a lot ruined FR-S/BRZ's. I had a salesman gawk over the car and recommend "You gotta turn off that traction control and get that thing sideways!" great advise! unfortunately I love my car too much. Just imagine if he sold this car to a drifting inspired teenager.... :(

m.box.design 08-16-2012 01:56 PM

As much as I love to drive my car, I have my wife and child. I'm definitely not going to put myself or my car in danger. You have to imagine the logistics it takes to buy a car like this when you have a family. :D

So for now, I'm going to keep the trac ON and hoon it at the track only.

mediumbrown 08-16-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 383439)
And people claim that the FR-S has "better" suspension than the BRZ - have we seen any wrecked BRZ's yet?

"Through two months of sales, BRZ has sold 1,587 units and FR-S 4,419 units."

logically, that is part of the reason why there are less BRZ accident vs FR-S...

MattR 08-16-2012 02:07 PM

LOL @ the comments on the article!!

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Originally Posted by Jalopnik Reader
I dunno, bro, that looks pretty tight to me. Needs maybe a little more camber to take the dope up to eleven.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Mr 286 08-16-2012 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 383439)
And people claim that the FR-S has "better" suspension than the BRZ - have we seen any wrecked BRZ's yet? I think it's gotta be just a little bit too twitchy for people's own good! Reminds me of the 1991-92 MR2's and their snap-oversteer issues.

1) There are less BRZ models on the road. Lower probability of crashes. Also, it's likely that more younger (presumably less experienced) drivers will purchase the lower cost FR-S. Presumably higher probability of crashes.

2) The car isn't "twitchy" at all. Crashes can occur in any car for a number of reasons, driver error only being one of them. Yes, this car being RWD will require additional car control skills in certain situations. The handling is superb compared to many other cars I have driven including my MR2.

3) Speaking of which, I've driven 1991 MR2's both stock and modified for years, and also have driven the models with the revised suspension. I have never wrecked one. Some people just don't have enough car control skills. In fact, my '91 MR2 actually has an understeer bias even under braking because I've fitted coilovers, wide 9" rear wheels with 245 tread width, and 7.5" front wheels with 205 tread width.

Hotlava86 08-16-2012 02:32 PM

god damn people must REALLY be pushing these things.....or just tap the throttle in the rain. Cause man even with the TRAC off and on dry roads i have just barely enough UMPH to get it a hair sideways. for SURE not enough to even think about losing it. people should have to take a test to be able to drive nice cars LMAO

ReVoiD 08-16-2012 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotlava86 (Post 383712)
god damn people must REALLY be pushing these things.....or just tap the throttle in the rain. Cause man even with the TRAC off and on dry roads i have just barely enough UMPH to get it a hair sideways. for SURE not enough to even think about losing it. people should have to take a test to be able to drive nice cars LMAO

this aint a mustang. you dont use power to drift you use the cars inertia taking a turn. much more difficult then using power over on a high hp car.

my last rwd car was a volvo 740 with 115hp from factory.. mine had gone past 500 000km so maybe 80hp left? and was able to drift with it in the dry! sure rain made it easier and snow even more so.. but you learn how to controll a car with low hp.


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