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ayau 11-27-2021 04:53 PM

Second gen engine tuning
 
Wanted to start a discussion about second gen tuning. As of this writing, there aren't engine tuning options. Do we know if EcuTek has plans to provide a tuning solution for these cars?

steve99 11-27-2021 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ayau (Post 3484778)
Wanted to start a discussion about second gen tuning. As of this writing, there aren't engine tuning options. Do we know if EcuTek has plans to provide a tuning solution for these cars?


Very little info available


Appears new model car ( we dont have them in my country yet) may have complety new ECU, I asked a guy a in

USA to try read the new model with Ecutek and ecutek could not connect to car. This suggests ecu is completly different than old version.


Im sure Ecutek and Alientech and possibly Tactrix will work on accessing new ECU and allowing tuning on new platform but may take some months.

Lantanafrs2 11-27-2021 07:09 PM

Get shiv going on this

Evil Rocky 11-27-2021 08:44 PM

I think people with a fa24 WRX already being tuned by Junior at prime motoring and said can do FA24 BRZ/GT86

Yoshoobaroo 11-27-2021 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2 (Post 3484795)
Get shiv going on this


For them to abandon the platform before Valentine’s Day? No thanks, I’ll wait for ECUtek. After going with Shiv on 2 platforms I’ve learned my lesson.

ayau 11-27-2021 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Rocky (Post 3484808)
I think people with a fa24 WRX already being tuned by Junior at prime motoring and said can do FA24 BRZ/GT86

That's assuming both use the same security to lock out the engine ECU. Unlikely but possible.

ayau 11-27-2021 10:08 PM

It doesn't appear Subaru is known for using European engine ECUs with more security. My bet is this ECU will be cracked in a relatively short time.

I'm interested to see if this new ECU runs air/fuel in full time closed loop. Do we know if the Ascent FA24 runs in full time closed?

nikitopo 11-28-2021 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by steve99 (Post 3484790)
Very little info available


Appears new model car ( we dont have them in my country yet) may have complety new ECU, I asked a guy a in

USA to try read the new model with Ecutek and ecutek could not connect to car. This suggests ecu is completly different than old version.


Im sure Ecutek and Alientech and possibly Tactrix will work on accessing new ECU and allowing tuning on new platform but may take some months.

Does Ecutek have any offices in US to start reverse engineering the new platform? Not sales offices ..

European cars will delay a lot!

ayau 11-28-2021 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nikitopo (Post 3484869)
Does Ecutek have any offices in US to start reverse engineering the new platform? Not sales offices ..

European cars will delay a lot!

Shouldn't delay cracking it. If someone wants to crack the ECM, you can just buy a brand new one and ship it. If the ECM needs to be plugged into the car, you can remotely jailbreak it.

With such a big aftermarket following, I'm pretty sure EcuTek is committed to this platform. Too much revenue to give up by ignoring the new generation.

nikitopo 11-29-2021 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ayau (Post 3484979)
Shouldn't delay cracking it. If someone wants to crack the ECM, you can just buy a brand new one and ship it. If the ECM needs to be plugged into the car, you can remotely jailbreak it.

With such a big aftermarket following, I'm pretty sure EcuTek is committed to this platform. Too much revenue to give up by ignoring the new generation.

I suppose they had a similar process to crack different ECU versions across regions (NA/EU/ASIA/...)

tomm.brz 11-29-2021 04:14 AM

as soon as they have access to the ecu with their cable and software they ll rely on master tuners sending stock rom dumps to them

Little Samurai 01-02-2022 08:47 AM

In Germany we tried to get into the new Yaris GR software, which didn't work well. then we did it with the new syveces ecu and that works well
I drive the Motec M150 in my GT86 racing car
I think a new control unit in the GR86 will also be better than experimenting with Ecuteck

greatings Ulli

Jaden 01-04-2022 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Little Samurai (Post 3493011)
In Germany we tried to get into the new Yaris GR software, which didn't work well. then we did it with the new syveces ecu and that works well
I drive the Motec M150 in my GT86 racing car
I think a new control unit in the GR86 will also be better than experimenting with Ecuteck

greatings Ulli

Lol, yeah cause spending 7 too 10 thousand on a standalone ecu is a great solution....

Jaden

Little Samurai 01-07-2022 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaden (Post 3493532)
Lol, yeah cause spending 7 too 10 thousand on a standalone ecu is a great solution....

Jaden

yes we do that, the days with naturally aspirated engines in the DTM and the STW were great years i love high-speed engines without turbo:burnrubber:


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