Losing traction for no reason?
 

I know people have posted about similar issues but everyone is running different setups so I figured I’d post my personal situation

Disclaimer: suspension is stock and im running 215/45/17s for my tires; same as stock. I recently got my brakes serviced and they replaced my tires too so they aren’t Michelin’s or anything fancy, but I’ve been having this problem for weeks now even before I got new tires.

So when I’m cornering, whether taking a corner hard or literally just going 25-30 mph, I’ll notice my traction light will come on and I’ll slide a bit. It seems like the back is kicking out so I’m not sure if that’s oversteer or understeer but that’s what’s happening. I usually notice it happens when I’m taking corners towards the left but I think it sometimes happens when the curves are going to the right. In the past I was able to take corners smoothly but now it seems like I really need to be careful otherwise I could spin out.

I suspect suspension issues but when I went to a shop about it they said everything was fine.. but they lied about my brakes being fine when in fact they were dog shit and i knew that beforehand so who knows what else they lied about 🤷*♀️

I also notice that sometimes when I’m going highway speeds it feels like my car is shaking/it feels like it’s swaying back and forth somewhere under my car. (if that makes sense) Could these issues be related?

Thanks always for any responses 😆 Trying to figure out if I have a real issue or not.

What tires? All 4 the same tire?

Get your alignment checked. Not just a visual inspection but actually checked.

This.

What tires did the put on? They may have put shit tires on.

I had a similar issue. Ball joint. I'd get another shop to check your car.

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tire specs are important, as they could be contributing to the final result, but the real problem is your alignment.

get it put on an alignment jig, get it straightened out, and be sure to get a printout of the before/after alignment settings.

sorry i forgot to note that they only changed my rears but before i got them changed (about 2 weeks ago) they were all the same. they put on sceptors which ive never heard of so im sure theyre trash😭

yeah i’m thinking something is loose which is what’s throwing me off. i’ll look for a reputable shop, thanks!

Sceptor 4xs? I aint never heard of those so I’m sure they threw on literally any tires and they kinda suck 😫 but it’s almost winter so i was just gonna ride them out until it starts to snow and then get winter tires. Any winter tire recommendations?

tirerack.com look through the reviews.


my first car accident was caused by a cheap, no-name garbage tire like that. it slipped, and slid everywhere. if the ground was even damp, ABS would kick in for many seconds, extending my anticipated braking distances by a matter of 30-50ft...

So they only replaced the rear tires? Yeah that's why, and they sound like Garbage tires.
As mentioned start with alignment. If your toe is off it will cause all sorts of weird handling issues.


For deep snow driving Nokian hakkapeliitta R3, Pirelli ice zero FR, continental Vikkingcontact7's.
If you want better dry handling Pirelli sottozeros, or Michelin pilot Alpin PA4 are my picks.

The new michelin x-ice snows that came out last year and finally replaced the xice3's are pretty good too!

one would assume the OP has checked the tire pressure.





tires are life and death. choose wisely. most crashes around here involve a wet road so rain/wet tires are prudent.

my experience is that tire pressure has almost no bearing on these cars until it gets to very extreme differences. like 5 pounds.

cool, thanks for the suggestions! i’m definitely going to get the alignment checked and then i’ll update here when i find out the reason :)

So you weren't driving within the limitations of your setup and crashed? And that's the tire's fault?

If the shop did an alignment, and didn't reset the steering angle sensor the traction control will freak out which sounds like what you are experiencing. Have a reputable shop check the alignment and recalibrate the steering angle sensor.

yes. because their handling characteristics were entirely unpredictable in any conditions.

but hey, my boss says everything is my fault, so what the hell, of course it's my fault. it can't be faulty equipment, or what i say is the problem, it has to be my fault because if it was someone else's fault then it wouldn't be my fault.

so fine. i'm a fuckup. there. does that make you all warm and fuzzy now?

You recognized a deficiency. You drove anyway. You crashed. It's your fault. Cars with shitty tires don't crash themselves.

hindsight is 20/20. they don't teach rubber composition in drivers ed.

They don't need to.

Must have been nice going through life knowing all and never making a mistake :iono:

I dunno, man. Sketch is sketch.

Making mistakes is human. Blaming someone/thing else is lying to yourself.

Something I said many years ago is that there's a time in many young people's lives where they wake up one morning and realize they're the smartest person on the planet. They then get annoyed and ridicule everyone who isn't as smart as them. Most of us grow out of it, the rest seem to move to California.

You should consider moving to California.

Please.

well i can tell you this the tires make all the difference in this car cold tires do not grab crap tires on these cars says it all the car weights less than 2800 pounds and if you plan on driving it in the winter take your car to a good tire shop and spend some money on a good set of tires

Update...?

My money is on a loose ball joint at the front.

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