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soundman98 10-23-2021 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by thomasmryan (Post 3475420)
one would assume the OP has checked the tire pressure.





tires are life and death. choose wisely. most crashes around here involve a wet road so rain/wet tires are prudent.
my experience is that tire pressure has almost no bearing on these cars until it gets to very extreme differences. like 5 pounds.

julzbrz 10-25-2021 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RToyo86 (Post 3475325)
So they only replaced the rear tires? Yeah that's why, and they sound like Garbage tires.
As mentioned start with alignment. If your toe is off it will cause all sorts of weird handling issues.


For deep snow driving Nokian hakkapeliitta R3, Pirelli ice zero FR, continental Vikkingcontact7's.
If you want better dry handling Pirelli sottozeros, or Michelin pilot Alpin PA4 are my picks.
cool, thanks for the suggestions! i’m definitely going to get the alignment checked and then i’ll update here when i find out the reason :)

Tokay444 10-26-2021 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3475300)
tirerack.com look through the reviews.


my first car accident was caused by a cheap, no-name garbage tire like that. it slipped, and slid everywhere. if the ground was even damp, ABS would kick in for many seconds, extending my anticipated braking distances by a matter of 30-50ft...
So you weren't driving within the limitations of your setup and crashed? And that's the tire's fault?

Opie 10-26-2021 09:34 AM
If the shop did an alignment, and didn't reset the steering angle sensor the traction control will freak out which sounds like what you are experiencing. Have a reputable shop check the alignment and recalibrate the steering angle sensor.

soundman98 10-26-2021 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 3475964)
So you weren't driving within the limitations of your setup and crashed? And that's the tire's fault?
yes. because their handling characteristics were entirely unpredictable in any conditions.

but hey, my boss says everything is my fault, so what the hell, of course it's my fault. it can't be faulty equipment, or what i say is the problem, it has to be my fault because if it was someone else's fault then it wouldn't be my fault.

so fine. i'm a fuckup. there. does that make you all warm and fuzzy now?

Tokay444 10-27-2021 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3476153)
yes. because their handling characteristics were entirely unpredictable in any conditions.

but hey, my boss says everything is my fault, so what the hell, of course it's my fault. it can't be faulty equipment, or what i say is the problem, it has to be my fault because if it was someone else's fault then it wouldn't be my fault.

so fine. i'm a fuckup. there. does that make you all warm and fuzzy now?
You recognized a deficiency. You drove anyway. You crashed. It's your fault. Cars with shitty tires don't crash themselves.

soundman98 10-27-2021 10:02 PM
hindsight is 20/20. they don't teach rubber composition in drivers ed.

Tokay444 10-28-2021 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3476420)
hindsight is 20/20. they don't teach rubber composition in drivers ed.
They don't need to.

NoHaveMSG 10-28-2021 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3476420)
hindsight is 20/20. they don't teach rubber composition in drivers ed.
Must have been nice going through life knowing all and never making a mistake :iono:

Ultramaroon 10-28-2021 10:38 PM
I dunno, man. Sketch is sketch.

Tokay444 10-29-2021 08:28 AM
Making mistakes is human. Blaming someone/thing else is lying to yourself.

ScoobsMcGee 10-29-2021 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 3476790)
Making mistakes is human. Blaming someone/thing else is lying to yourself.
Something I said many years ago is that there's a time in many young people's lives where they wake up one morning and realize they're the smartest person on the planet. They then get annoyed and ridicule everyone who isn't as smart as them. Most of us grow out of it, the rest seem to move to California.

You should consider moving to California.

Tokay444 10-29-2021 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ScoobsMcGee (Post 3476826)
Something I said many years ago is that there's a time in many young people's lives where they wake up one morning and realize they're the smartest person on the planet. They then get annoyed and ridicule everyone who isn't as smart as them. Most of us grow out of it, the rest seem to move to California.

You should consider moving to California.
Please.

stacyu18 11-10-2021 08:27 PM
well i can tell you this the tires make all the difference in this car cold tires do not grab crap tires on these cars says it all the car weights less than 2800 pounds and if you plan on driving it in the winter take your car to a good tire shop and spend some money on a good set of tires


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