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brkdncr 09-28-2021 01:33 AM

Best option to lift: spacers, coil overs, airbags?
 
I need some height. Half of the year i drive about 6-12 miles per week down a rural road that ends in my driveway. Sometimes the county gets behind and there’s decent mounds of sand and i hear it rubbing against the underside and I get a little bogged down. Sooner or later I’m going to get stuck.

What will work best for me? 1” spacers are cheap and easy and don’t change anything except ride-height. Springs can add some lift but i don’t know how much they change the driving characteristics. Airbags are pricey, but keeps the stock ride height.

Of these options I’m leaning towards spacers, and probably HDPE from Andersen Design and Fab.

x808drifter 09-28-2021 03:26 PM

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Turdinator 09-29-2021 11:00 PM

Outside of the sandy road to you house, what sort of driving do you normally do?

brkdncr 09-29-2021 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Turdinator (Post 3469906)
Outside of the sandy road to you house, what sort of driving do you normally do?


Highway, city, twisties in the mountains. No track use.

I ordered the subtle full set since they have a rear alignment spacer set.

Turdinator 09-29-2021 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by brkdncr (Post 3469907)
Highway, city, twisties in the mountains. No track use.

I ordered the subtle full set since they have a rear alignment spacer set.

You shouldn't need a spacer set for less than a 1.5" lift but it wont hurt. You could also look at the TRD rally springs for an extra 1/2" of compression travel and a bump in spring rates. The matching shocks are softer than stock so probably not what you want for the mountain runs but the stock shocks will work just fine with them.

brkdncr 09-29-2021 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Turdinator (Post 3469915)
You shouldn't need a spacer set for less than a 1.5" lift but it wont hurt. You could also look at the TRD rally springs for an extra 1/2" of compression travel and a bump in spring rates. The matching shocks are softer than stock so probably not what you want for the mountain runs but the stock shocks will work just fine with them.


Thanks, I was looking at the TRD springs too and may get those if 1” isn’t enough.

The rural road i typically don’t go fast, it’s just a matter of not getting stuck. I’m also considering getting 16” wheels and bulkier tires if I can find something reasonably priced.

soundman98 09-29-2021 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by brkdncr (Post 3469921)
The rural road i typically don’t go fast, it’s just a matter of not getting stuck. I’m also considering getting 16” wheels and bulkier tires if I can find something reasonably priced.

the only thing 16" wheels would do would allow you to run lower tire pressures to increase flotation.

but considering that 16" wheels really only allow one to run about a 55% sidewall vs. the stock 45% sidewall (and compared to the tires that offroaders use for the technique that usually have at least 90% sidewall), i'm not so sure the effect will be very worthwhile.

but i don't think airing tires up and down all the time is the most desirable way to solve the issue either.

brkdncr 09-30-2021 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3469925)
the only thing 16" wheels would do would allow you to run lower tire pressures to increase flotation.

but considering that 16" wheels really only allow one to run about a 55% sidewall vs. the stock 45% sidewall (and compared to the tires that offroaders use for the technique that usually have at least 90% sidewall), i'm not so sure the effect will be very worthwhile.

but i don't think airing tires up and down all the time is the most desirable way to solve the issue either.


More sidewall to deal with rocks.


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Turdinator 09-30-2021 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by brkdncr (Post 3469921)
Thanks, I was looking at the TRD springs too and may get those if 1” isn’t enough.

The rural road i typically don’t go fast, it’s just a matter of not getting stuck. I’m also considering getting 16” wheels and bulkier tires if I can find something reasonably priced.

Have you seen this thread?
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105692

You can run 215/60R16 tires without rubbing (I run this size) and I believe 215/65R16 will fit with only a small amount of rub and has a number of all terrain tires available. That is if you want to lean into the lifted/safari/outback vibe.

Spawn_Of_Creation 09-30-2021 02:49 PM

Lift spacers are the budget way to go. There are 2 common lift springs available (TRD and Chuhatsu Plus Multiroad), with a 3rd in the works (RCE Rally X [I'm waiting on these for the spring rates]). All 3 are roughly .5" lift. The lift springs dont increase total travel, but trade off droop for the extra height. Above .5" lift you start to need rear subframe correction. If you run a combination of springs and spacers, you need the equivalent total height for your rear subframe spacers (1" spacer + .5" spring = 1.5" rear correction). Combine with better shocks for best result (such as Bilstein B6)

Spawn_Of_Creation 09-30-2021 02:58 PM

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You can run 215/60R16 tires without rubbing


Can you do this on stock suspension? Or does it require a slight lift? I'm currently on 215/55/16 on 16x7+30 Method MR502 Rally Spec with stock suspension.

Turdinator 10-01-2021 12:19 AM

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Can you do this on stock suspension? Or does it require a slight lift? I'm currently on 215/55/16 on 16x7+30 Method MR502 Rally Spec with stock suspension.

I've driven with that wheel tire combo both lifted and lowered without rubbing. I haven't at stock height but I'd be pretty confident they wouldn't rub. The only other relevant data points are that my wheels are a +48 offset and I have extra caster from the pedders strut tops. The tire comes closest to rubbing at full lock on the inside wheel's outer edge to the rear part of the wheel arch. With my mudflaps there it clears by just under 1/4".


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