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Akrochik 09-14-2021 10:44 AM

Bouncing on high speed right-hander on track
 
My car was doing something odd on track in my last session. There's a long high speed right hander with a lot of camber and many times in that corner my car did a sort of rhythmic bouning when I was around 33% throttle. Is this porpoising? Anything else I can do to address? Thanks!

2013 FRS
Tein Flex Z coilovers set to about 66% of the way to full firm
1" lower than stock
Stage 2 tune and bolt ons

DarkPira7e 09-14-2021 11:11 AM

What swaybars are you running?

Akrochik 09-14-2021 11:18 AM

Suspension is stock besides the coils

bmacfrs 09-14-2021 12:25 PM

Could be lots of things. Maybe a read thru this can get you started
https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/ar...-to-cure-them/

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CSG Mike 09-14-2021 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Akrochik (Post 3465572)
My car was doing something odd on track in my last session. There's a long high speed right hander with a lot of camber and many times in that corner my car did a sort of rhythmic bouning when I was around 33% throttle. Is this porpoising? Anything else I can do to address? Thanks!

2013 FRS
Tein Flex Z coilovers set to about 66% of the way to full firm
1" lower than stock
Stage 2 tune and bolt ons

Have a datalog?

Akrochik 09-14-2021 03:59 PM

I have the outputs from TrackAddict but I imagine you're looking for something more detailed.

I do have onboard video if that's helpful.

949 Racing 09-19-2021 01:23 PM

Its your shocks. FLEX-Z are a relatively cheap twin tube with a lot less bump travel than OEM. Turned up stiff enough to avoid wallowing and they'll bounce due to inadequate low speed rebound. Turned down to avoid bouncing.. and it wallows.

Make sure you have lengths adjusted so you're staying off the bumpstops. Raising the car will likely reduce the bouncing.

Swaybars are not the source of the oscillation and have nothing to do with it so ignore that.

Any adjustable shocks should always be set to the softest possible setting that controls wallow. No stiffer than that. Poorly designed shocks will often start to bounce before the wallow goes away so you can never find the right setting.

Ultramaroon 09-19-2021 05:41 PM

Critical damping is critical

949 Racing 09-19-2021 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3467101)
Critical damping is critical

tru dat

NoHaveMSG 09-20-2021 01:41 PM

Never experienced that in the couple seasons I ran Flex Z's, though I also didn't have a corner like what you described. Don't think ride height is the issue.

strat61caster 09-20-2021 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3467281)
Never experienced that in the couple seasons I ran Flex Z's, though I also didn't have a corner like what you described. Don't think ride height is the issue.

As long as OP hasn't done something to reduce bump travel I'd agree, one of the advantages of the 2-piece coilovers is they can keep the stiffness consistent at various heights. On another coilover or if the OP has reduced bump travel by lowering the spring perch and is using more bump stop due to a lower height then yes, ride height will matter for handling bumpy pavement.


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