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knapper 08-31-2021 03:54 PM

Bilstein B8 with Stock Springs
 
Hi gang, I am in the market for replacing the stock shocks due to their age and condition. I do AutoX the car, and in order to stay in the class I am at now, I am not able to use adjustable, and I need to remove at stock ride height with stock springs.

I have seen many folks run the B8 with stock springs, but I was worried about too much preload because of the shorter damper. I know I could just go B6 and call it a day, but eventually I may look to get springs, which is why I was looking at the B8s.

Has anyone run the B8s with stock springs? Any known issues at all?

bucketfoot 08-31-2021 04:44 PM

If you haven't already, you may want to read through this thread.

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143629

knapper 08-31-2021 09:21 PM

I was aware of the differences between the B8 and B6, but I'm super happy I read that the B6 will be just fine for lowered cars as well. I will get the B6.

Thanks very much!

RToyo86 08-31-2021 09:57 PM

Noticed your in Ottawa too. I have B6 on RCE yellows.
If you wanted to feel that setup, feel free to shoot me a PM

ZDan 08-31-2021 11:56 PM

You'll be fine with B6s with lower springs, and you'll be better off with B6s with stock springs (more droop travel).

I have B8s with 1.25" lower Swift Spec-R springs. Had to compress the springs quite a bit to install. After the fact I learned that springs wouldn't have been loose if I'd gone with B6s. And reduced droop travel for short springs is literally the only difference between B8 and B6.

knapper 09-01-2021 08:09 AM

Thanks for all the input folks. B6's it is! Now, I wonder how long it will take to get them in...

ZDan 09-01-2021 08:16 AM

Should also mention I'm a big fan of the Bilsteins for street and track! Much smoother ride than stock, with better low-speed damping and more bump travel up front so better-suited to lower springs.

RToyo86 09-01-2021 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by knapper (Post 3461964)
Thanks for all the input folks. B6's it is! Now, I wonder how long it will take to get them in...

I ordered mine back in March from FT86MS and received them in 2-3 weeks. Supply/demand has been a bit crazy since so who knows.

knapper 09-01-2021 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ZDan (Post 3461965)
Should also mention I'm a big fan of the Bilsteins for street and track! Much smoother ride than stock, with better low-speed damping and more bump travel up front so better-suited to lower springs.

:thanks:

Appreciate the input. I'm looking forward to having the upgrade; the car has stock all original suspension still on it (2013 FRS), so it will be a nice update. Even with the stock springs for now.

Calum 09-01-2021 06:37 PM

I recently switched to B6 with stock 2013 frs springs and the MCA traction mod. I've only got a handful of miles on it so far, but damn is it good. So far nothing upsets it, the rear is much more progressive and easy to control, and at highway speeds it just seems to get more comfortable and composed the faster I go. Seriously, good dampers was transformative. The traction mod was just icing on the cake making it easier put power down on corner exit.

knapper 09-03-2021 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Calum (Post 3462199)
I recently switched to B6 with stock 2013 frs springs and the MCA traction mod. I've only got a handful of miles on it so far, but damn is it good. So far nothing upsets it, the rear is much more progressive and easy to control, and at highway speeds it just seems to get more comfortable and composed the faster I go. Seriously, good dampers was transformative. The traction mod was just icing on the cake making it easier put power down on corner exit.

Awesome, glad to hear the positive feedback. Looks like they have some at the supplier through FT86 so should be here in a couple of weeks. Super pumped.

I will look into the MCA Traction mod, too. Cheers.

knapper 09-03-2021 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Calum (Post 3462199)
I recently switched to B6 with stock 2013 frs springs and the MCA traction mod. I've only got a handful of miles on it so far, but damn is it good. So far nothing upsets it, the rear is much more progressive and easy to control, and at highway speeds it just seems to get more comfortable and composed the faster I go. Seriously, good dampers was transformative. The traction mod was just icing on the cake making it easier put power down on corner exit.

Question regarding the MCA mod after looking at it. One of the questions that we are asking when classing our cars for MCO (Ottawa Club) is whether we have changed the suspension geometry at all. If we do, I get dinged a few points, and then into next class. Do you think this would qualify as changing the suspension geometry. As far as I can tell, you can run standard alignment etc. so I am thinking I should be OK with it.

Calum 09-03-2021 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by knapper (Post 3462698)
Question regarding the MCA mod after looking at it. One of the questions that we are asking when classing our cars for MCO (Ottawa Club) is whether we have changed the suspension geometry at all. If we do, I get dinged a few points, and then into next class. Do you think this would qualify as changing the suspension geometry. As far as I can tell, you can run standard alignment etc. so I am thinking I should be OK with it.

I don't know, best to take this question to the tracking forums below

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Calum 09-03-2021 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by knapper (Post 3462692)
Awesome, glad to hear the positive feedback. Looks like they have some at the supplier through FT86 so should be here in a couple of weeks. Super pumped.



I will look into the MCA Traction mod, too. Cheers.

They don't keep anything that expensive in stock. Ask ahead what the time line will be before you put down money. Bilsteins for this car were on back order for a long time, I don't know if that was resolved yet.



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