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VickySimms 08-29-2021 03:09 PM

Desperate car choice
 
Question, really need some help and input.
If you were buying for yourself
2016 RS 2.0, 57k miles, 2 owner, babied, no known motor failure, all the creature comforts, oil done by owner, been run on E85 with flex fuel and a stage 2 OFT tune. Will be removed and reflashed to stock if I were to buy.
Or
2013, 27k miles, 1 owner, babied, potential for valve spring failure (it’s not a recall car but… 2013’s amiright), no creature comforts, oil done by technician.
Total cost difference is $2400 including insurance.

fitcious 08-29-2021 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by VickySimms (Post 3461069)
Question, really need some help and input.
If you were buying for yourself
2016, 57k miles, 2 owner, babied, no known motor failure, all the creature comforts, oil done by owner, been run on E85 with flex fuel and a stage 2 OFT tune. Will be removed and reflashed to stock if I were to buy.
Or
2013, 27k miles, 1 owner, babied, potential for valve spring failure (it’s not a recall car but… 2013’s amiright), no creature comforts, oil done by technician.
Total cost difference is $2400 including insurance.


Same color?

Look at service history through Toyota owners of both are frs.

I personally have 2013 and done the recall and it’s been great.

rbfr.s 08-29-2021 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by VickySimms (Post 3461069)
Question, really need some help and input.
If you were buying for yourself
2016 RS 2.0, 57k miles, 2 owner, babied, no known motor failure, all the creature comforts, oil done by owner, been run on E85 with flex fuel and a stage 2 OFT tune. Will be removed and reflashed to stock if I were to buy.
Or
2013, 27k miles, 1 owner, babied, potential for valve spring failure (it’s not a recall car but… 2013’s amiright), no creature comforts, oil done by technician.
Total cost difference is $2400 including insurance.

For resale alone I would choose the RS 2.0. While it may have more miles, it's not plagued with the stigma of being a 2013. That, and the limited edition trim is too pretty to pass up. Just my 2 cents. :cheers:

fitcious 08-29-2021 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rbfr.s (Post 3461077)
For resale alone I would choose the RS 2.0. While it may have more miles, it's not plagued with the stigma of being a 2013. That, and the limited edition trim is too pretty to pass up. Just my 2 cents. :cheers:


I agree. RS2.0 all the way.

OP’s initial post didn’t mentioned it was RS2.0

VickySimms 08-29-2021 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rbfr.s (Post 3461077)
For resale alone I would choose the RS 2.0. While it may have more miles, it's not plagued with the stigma of being a 2013. That, and the limited edition trim is too pretty to pass up. Just my 2 cents. :cheers:

resale aside, is there any other reason? If its just a resale thing, id go with the 2013... Im just not sure how common the valve spring failure is in reality. Im having troubles finding actual numbers as there were so few that actually initiated the recall so its hard to say how many failures were to actually happen.
Also im just not sure what damages may have occurred using e85 and a tune. Im just a super paranoid buyer, I just want a car im not afraid to enjoy haha.

fitcious 08-29-2021 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by VickySimms (Post 3461085)
resale aside, is there any other reason? If its just a resale thing, id go with the 2013... Im just not sure how common the valve spring failure is in reality. Im having troubles finding actual numbers as there were so few that actually initiated the recall so its hard to say how many failures were to actually happen.


Where do you live? I live in California and it won’t let me renew my registration until the recall was done. I did it and was really nervous at first since I babied my car but it was fine.

What’s the price for each?

VickySimms 08-29-2021 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fitcious (Post 3461086)
Where do you live? I live in California and it won’t let me renew my registration until the recall was done. I did it and was really nervous at first since I babied my car but it was fine.

What’s the price for each?

let me preface this by saying, I need a car, the market is bad, any car I buy will look like a shit deal.
21,5 OTD shipped to my doorstep for the 2013
23,1 OTD for 2016, but I have to fly out and drive it home 13 hours.

fitcious 08-29-2021 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by VickySimms (Post 3461090)
let me preface this by saying, I need a car, the market is bad, any car I buy will look like a shit deal.
21,5 OTD shipped to my doorstep for the 2013
23,1 OTD for 2016, but I have to fly out and drive it home 13 hours.


Wow so pricey. Buy mine for $19,500. 2013, dark blue, 47k, one owner. Trd parts Lol

VickySimms 08-29-2021 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fitcious (Post 3461094)
Wow so pricey. Buy mine for $19,500. 2013, dark blue, 47k, one owner. Trd parts Lol

Yeah, just add 2000$ to the value of any car, and thats the market right now. So RS 2.0 with all the goodies in the interior, or 2013 with none of the goodies with money to spare for a valve spring replacement.

fitcious 08-29-2021 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by VickySimms (Post 3461098)
Yeah, just add 2000$ to the value of any car, and thats the market right now. So RS 2.0 with all the goodies in the interior, or 2013 with none of the goodies with money to spare for a valve spring replacement.


Wow. Ok I’m seriously going to close selling mine. Might post it this week and see if there will be bites

VickySimms 08-29-2021 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fitcious (Post 3461100)
Wow. Ok I’m seriously going to close selling mine. Might post it this week and see if there will be bites

so what's your pick. 2013 or 2016. still RS 2.0?

fitcious 08-29-2021 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by VickySimms (Post 3461102)
so what's your pick. 2013 or 2016. still RS 2.0?


Yeah RS.

See if you can reverse the tune to stock

soundman98 08-29-2021 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by VickySimms (Post 3461090)
let me preface this by saying, I need a car, the market is bad, any car I buy will look like a shit deal.
21,5 OTD shipped to my doorstep for the 2013
23,1 OTD for 2016, but I have to fly out and drive it home 13 hours.

perfect time to get a beater for reasonable money that needs simple work. do the work, and wait for the market to cool down, then get the car you really want at more normalized pricing...

overpaying for a car you want is just asking for buyers remorse later when you attempt to keep it, and realize just how much you overpaid, and it quickly becomes a boon to the enjoyment of the car itself.

VickySimms 08-29-2021 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3461135)
perfect time to get a beater for reasonable money that needs simple work. do the work, and wait for the market to cool down, then get the car you really want at more normalized pricing...

overpaying for a car you want is just asking for buyers remorse later when you attempt to keep it, and realize just how much you overpaid, and it quickly becomes a boon to the enjoyment of the car itself.

Why would I spend 2k more on a beater?? its 2k now or wait until 2023 when the market normalizes. I witnessed someone buy a Honda Civic with 190k miles for 9 grand last week while I was sitting in a dealership... As long as people are buying, the prices aren't gonna go anywhere.


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