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pezzie 08-15-2012 05:35 AM

How to drive manual
 
So i have only had around 5 hours driving a manual car and this was around 5 years ago in flowing traffic on my learners. So I have a few questions about different situations before I get my manual brz.
1.What are the best ways to approach a give way sign or a round about. At times in an automatic car, I don't come to a complete stop and roll at 10/20km and continue if i see that it is clear. When I was learning, I always went to a complete stop, checked that it was clear, then continued in gear 1.
2. can a manual car stall while rolling? I have never tried this, but Say I'm driving at 40km in gear 2 and brake to slow down to 15km then speed up again. Would I be able to just brake without clutching in and avoid stalling? At what point does a car stall?
3. What's the best way to drive around a shopping car park, just keep it in gear 1?

I'm just mostly concerned about stop and go traffic during peak hour and stalling in these situations because I'm not use to clutching in so often in traffic.
I don't have a manual car to practice in and all my friends drive auto as well. I'm thinking about getting manual driving lessons again, but $50 for 45 minutes just isn't worth it.

Bounce 08-15-2012 05:51 AM

Got a mate with an old manual beater? Give him a carton to let you hoon around a carpark, you should have it down pat in an hour or so... :)

fuddbutter 08-15-2012 05:52 AM

OK, ill try this.

1: Roundabout will depend on the size of it, if its large and you can see if anyone is coming, probably say 2nd gear.
Drop down to 1st if you are close to stopping (5kph)

2: car wont stall if you are in gear and the car is still moving..
you will feel it shudder once you get below a certain RPM, you want to keep the rev's about 600rpm odd. (depends on the car)

3: again, depends on speed. 2nd gear is usually fine.

i think you just need to get more experience listening to the engine and learning what it does.

white_knight 08-15-2012 06:12 AM

Really????

Please don't fry your brand new BRZ's clutch. Do us all a favour and take some manual lessons before you pick up your car. I don't want us 86/BRZ owners developing a rep for stalling at the lights. Good God, I can hear the taunts already...

eckoflyte 08-15-2012 06:22 AM

If you can't find a mates car, just rent one for a day. It's cheap, and you won't feel bad making mistakes in it. If you learnt in the BRZ, you'd hate yourself when you burn the clutch or stall your engine (which can sometimes feel quite violent depending how you've stalled it). It's just a natural part of the learning process.

onthemove 08-15-2012 07:40 AM

Honestly, i have NEVER put my car in 1st gear unless i was completely stopped, and never had any problems.

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Nafe 08-15-2012 08:00 AM

I am a little surprised that this was asked on a car enthusiast forum, but anyway.
I think the cosy of a manual lesson or two is totally worthwhile if it saves the clutch in your brand new car.
The hire idea was a good one too :-) @white_knight - that attitude isnt really necessay

tibsy92 08-15-2012 08:26 AM

Was in same situation as you, 20 or so hours on learners 3 years ago.. so few days before I rented some 90's model hilux hire ute from my local servo with the worst clutch and gearbox I've driven.. and still had the hang of it so returned it half an hour later

NG86 08-15-2012 08:41 AM

You should be fine mate. If my GF could learn how to drive manual in a hired Echo in 2 hours and picked up and drove away her new Echo Sportivo (2002) without any problem, you definitely can do it too. The hired Echo only costed me $50.

pezzie 08-15-2012 09:25 AM

Thanks for the reply guys.
I'm not worried about driving a manual. I picked it up when I was learning so I'm sure I can get use to it.
There were just some things I needed to clear up because I had never been in that situation and i didn't want to overuse the clutch and burn it out.
I'll take a lesson just to clear a few things up.
I also have a year to learn as well so don't worry about stalling brz's :)

pr0j 08-15-2012 09:47 AM

yeah man, I'm with white knight, get some more time in a manual before you hit the streets in a brz. I think the answers to your questions should all be the same, it depends on the circumstance.

Xauterus 08-15-2012 07:56 PM

You will be fine. Just spend some time in a quiet area and get used to driving a manual. You won't burn the clutch out if you aren't just revving and slipping it. A flat area will make it easy. You will stall it heaps, I did on the first day due to the fly by wire accelerator.

DanVIIIVI 08-15-2012 08:28 PM

The clutch in these cars could be a little tricky at first if you haven't had a refresher in a manual prior to picking it up. They have a firm peddle and quite a small point of engagement/release.

Just listen to the engine when approacing your obstacles of concern and that will govern what gear you need to be in. Most low speed negotiations if already rolling can be done in 2nd gear, only downshift into first once stopped or around < 5km/h.

Surok 08-15-2012 08:39 PM

STEP 1. Buy Manual R31 skyline
STEP 2. Take it to an industrial area at night
Step 3. Become driving god/drift king
step 4. sell R31 for same price as you bought it.

jump in your 86 and you should be good to go , except for the weird clutch in the 86.
i hate that.


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