Maybe the FT-86 doesnt need massive power........
 

The Lexus LF-A has done a 7:22.85 time at the Nurburgring - making it the 10th fastest production car ever to have lapped that circuit:thanks:

If Toyota is filtering down tech from that monster LF-A, perhaps they are aiming for a more fun to drive, involving, great handling car.........instead of a TLGP ricer car?

The Lexus LF-A only pushes 552Hp and weighs around 1480Kg. It certainly isnt the fastest in a drag race, or top end racing, but see what it has accomplished, and that time on street tires!

I have had a turbocharged Corolla and a 4AGE 20v Corolla and have been in the racing scene here in South Africa for quote some time, and although the modded Golf GTi's and Focus ST's, Opel OPC's etc can run ahead and some decimate cars like the BMW M3's, etc, all agree that a high revving car such as the RunX (Corolla) RSi [2ZZ-GE], 4AGE 20v Corolla's and Honda V-Tecs are fun to drive:bow:


Link to times:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring_lap_times

Lexus LFA with Nürburgring Package clocks 7:22 with minimal effort [video]
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print June 27, 2011 5:28 am By Brian Potter

10th place for the fastest production vehicle
Leading up to this past weekend's ADAC 24 hour race at Nürburgring, Lexus took their hot LFA Nürburgring Edition and ran an exhibition hot lap.

Driven by Gazoo Racing's Akira Iida, the team driver/manager clocked an impressive 7:22.85 putting it in 10th place for the fastest production vehicle to attack the extreme circuit.

According to LexusEnthusiasts.com this video was on display at the Nürburgring 24h race alongside the LFA Nürburgring Edition. Furthermore, the lap in the video was carried out for exhibition purposes only - essentially a warm up.

A full fledged attempt will be made in a few months, so an even faster time is expected.

Thanks to Shiro for the tip!

Source: lexusenthusiast.com

http://www.worldcarfans.com/11106273...2-with-minimal

I thought they already emphasized this in every single debut of this car. "FUN. TO DRIVE."

Lol. Someone is being quite silly or the old news hasn't reached you yet my friend. :P

Although.. there are people on this forum who expect 9999HP from this car. hahaha

:happyanim:
I know the emphasis on this car - about it being fun, but my point of this thread is because of peoples expectations of this car - to beat mustangs, etc in a straight line.

I think most people here get it, but at the same time we go back and forth on real time performance vs how they are going to market this vehicle to make it successful, and then the 'nice to haves'. Things will settle down once we get some real stats and pricing.

^That.

Also when you see $23-26k FWD/AWD sport compacts killing Stang on the straights and twisties stock for stock, you kinda don't expect to get a less featured slower n/a $23-25k sports coupe, even though it's balanced. That's all some of us are saying.

I like how you said, the LFA ONLY pushes 552hp! :bellyroll:

The 3rd gen Integra was the voted the best handling FF vehicle and it had 195hp @ 8k rpm and weighed in around 2639 lbs (1197 kg) <-Type R. The GSR was 170hp @ 7600 rpm and weighed 2765 lbs (1254 kg). I really hope this car will fall somewhere close to these specs.

Apparently the 2011 GTR ran a 7:24. I dont see the LFA's time as impressive now, lol.

Take the GT2 RS and its 7:18 lol

Where do ya think the FT will end up? 8:30ish? maybe 8:40?

9:05+

C5 Corvette, S2k, Boxster S, 350Z and Lotus Exige run 8:40s

^ I know you have issues with the car, but seriously slower than a GTI?

Dont know the full circumstances of the run, but if the 2001 Civic Type R hung in there at 8:47 (197hp, 2800lb) I'd expect this car to beat that with similar stats and if we give into this whole 'car of balance' thing. Maybe just wishful thinking too I suppose...

I noticed you originally had it at 9:45 then changed it to 9:05+.

The Golf Mk V GTI did 8:53. I would expect something similar to that.

Hell, a 2012 Corvette Z06 bests the LFA and it only has a $75k sticker price. lol

I'd have my money on 8:35 for the FR-S