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racingfool 08-11-2021 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2 (Post 3455877)
Horrible driving in that video

Automatic transmission? Out for a Sunday drive.

Jianlun 08-11-2021 10:10 PM

Wonder what's the penalty for breaking the embargo. Though technically it wasn't a driving review so it's not breaking the rules? Arguably same level of offense as taking photos/selfies of the drive days and posting on IG. Can't wait! Why isn't mon here already?!

Pete 08-11-2021 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2 (Post 3455877)
Horrible driving in that video

It looked like they were going really slow maybe so the drone could keep up?

Also weird editing, the audio doesn't match the video. I am hearing tire squeal while they drive slow on the straight, and engine revs are all over the place compared to where they are on the track.

Car looks cool though. It is a good red.

Edit: It seems like the audio lines up until about the 2 minute mark.

Blighty 08-12-2021 05:42 AM

I just wish for ONE thing on that GR86

A very small gloss black wrap that that just covered the lower front splitter - something that matched the black door mirrors.


edit, watch my poverty ms paint skills create this masterpiece ;)
https://i.imgur.com/mxB3c2e.jpg

Blighty 08-12-2021 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete (Post 3455897)
It looked like they were going really slow maybe so the drone could keep up?

Also weird editing, the audio doesn't match the video. I am hearing tire squeal while they drive slow on the straight, and engine revs are all over the place compared to where they are on the track.

Car looks cool though. It is a good red.

Edit: It seems like the audio lines up until about the 2 minute mark.

Yeah the audio is not of the run shown. His gear changes don't match.

StE92ve 08-12-2021 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Blighty (Post 3455874)
Is it just me or does it sound like they have the sound enhancer off for the first drive, and on in the second?

To my ear, it sounded like the opposite.

StE92ve 08-12-2021 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Blighty (Post 3455926)
I just wish for ONE thing on that GR86

A very small gloss black wrap that that just covered the lower front splitter - something that matched the black door mirrors.


edit, watch my poverty ms paint skills create this masterpiece ;)
https://i.imgur.com/mxB3c2e.jpg

That might work with colors that give it a contrast but with the darker colors, don't think it's necessary.

Yoshoobaroo 08-12-2021 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Blighty (Post 3455926)
I just wish for ONE thing on that GR86

A very small gloss black wrap that that just covered the lower front splitter - something that matched the black door mirrors.


edit, watch my poverty ms paint skills create this masterpiece ;)
https://i.imgur.com/mxB3c2e.jpg


The BRZ comes like that!

StE92ve 08-12-2021 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by racingfool (Post 3455880)
Automatic transmission? Out for a Sunday drive.

Definitely Automatic. You can hear the shift @0:48 and he never touches the shifter.

Ghost of Akina 08-12-2021 07:59 PM

https://youtu.be/TdhhWnPErWw

Kona61 08-12-2021 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jianlun (Post 3455885)
Wonder what's the penalty for breaking the embargo. Though technically it wasn't a driving review so it's not breaking the rules? Arguably same level of offense as taking photos/selfies of the drive days and posting on IG. Can't wait! Why isn't mon here already?!

I didn’t watch it, but normally embargoes mean you aren’t allowed to post an opinion about the car.

ayau 08-13-2021 12:45 AM

These embargoes are the dumbest thing ever. So you’ll let a journalist post videos about the car except for his impressions.

I believe the intention of this is to give every journalist a fair chance develop a coherent impression before posting the content online.

timurrrr 08-13-2021 02:18 AM

Here's a decent and pretty detailed explanation of embargoes:
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CLzmxs-B2oq/

Sport-Tech 08-13-2021 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghost of Akina (Post 3456094)

Pity he didn't keep his promise not to talk lol.

Interior sound seems very similar to the current car to me.

Kronk 08-13-2021 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghost of Akina (Post 3456094)

When this embargo ends, exactly?

Yoshoobaroo 08-13-2021 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kronk (Post 3456208)
When this embargo ends, exactly?


8/16

The day before Nissan’s Z reveal

wbradley 08-13-2021 09:25 AM

It looks really good and aside from screeching around on the Primacys, seems to handle at least as well as the first gen.

On the one hand I'd love to trade to the 2nd gen and on the other there's Ohlins, full exhaust, HKS supercharger, wheel tire and brake upgrades and custom dyno tuning that significantly surpasses anything from the showroom.

I could trade my '18 STI for the upgrade model but that means winter car going from a 4dr awd to a 2dr rwd.

Thefalls 08-13-2021 02:45 PM

The 'headache' is for those people with a modded first gen that is already on par with the 2nd gen in terms of performance.

A stock first gen owner when comparing to the 2nd gen will most probably upgrade with ease as the 2nd gen is like a modded first gen with bolt ons.

I believe if you have invested a lot in the first gen already and have considerable power then it won't really be an upgrade. It will be mostly for looks and fresh car 'feeling'.

Sure, some stuff will carry over, like wheels and coilovers. But to achieve the same power as FI will need further investments as in supercharger/turbo plus tuning. The aftermarket will catch up eventually and in the mean time you will have to enjoy it in NA form.

Maybe its better to wait till all the bugs are ironed out and get later versions as its a different engine.

Pete 08-14-2021 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost of Akina (Post 3456094)

Check out 3:55 to 4:15, he comes around a corner and goes WOT down a straight, and a couple things stand out to me:

1. the smirk as he comes around the corner, lol

2. the engine noise sounds progressive as it goes up in revs (doesn't have an audible lag where the torque dip was in the 1st gen)

3. the look he gives the dash and the face he makes at the camera as he hits near the top of 3rd gear.

It's mainly #3 that is making me a little more excited for monday's reviews. He is not exactly "commenting" but that face says a lot. It looks to me like he is surprised at how hard the car is pulling, and I hope I am right about that. lol.
:party0030:

timurrrr 08-14-2021 01:54 PM

I met Jason Cammisa at Laguna Seca the other day and we had a nice chat about various cars.
When I asked if he drove the new BRZ, his eyes started shining with excitement and told me to wait for the Hagerty video on the 17th.

Pete 08-14-2021 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by timurrrr (Post 3456504)
I met Jason Cammisa at Laguna Seca the other day and we had a nice chat about various cars.
When I asked if he drove the new BRZ, his eyes started shining with excitement and told me to wait for the Hagerty video on the 17th.

Cammisa + Hagerty have been killing it lately, lots of really good content on YouTube.

PulsarBeeerz 08-14-2021 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Thefalls (Post 3456289)
The 'headache' is for those people with a modded first gen that is already on par with the 2nd gen in terms of performance.

A stock first gen owner when comparing to the 2nd gen will most probably upgrade with ease as the 2nd gen is like a modded first gen with bolt ons.

I believe if you have invested a lot in the first gen already and have considerable power then it won't really be an upgrade. It will be mostly for looks and fresh car 'feeling'.

Sure, some stuff will carry over, like wheels and coilovers. But to achieve the same power as FI will need further investments as in supercharger/turbo plus tuning. The aftermarket will catch up eventually and in the mean time you will have to enjoy it in NA form.

Maybe its better to wait till all the bugs are ironed out and get later versions as its a different engine.


I don't think there is a headache. Many of those folks myself included have concluded, that it isn't worth the upgrade/debt. Modded paid off vehicles and all. The next performance vehicle personally would have to be a significant jump in capability. I'm almost old enough for a C7, no New Balances just Nikes.:D

ayau 08-14-2021 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by timurrrr (Post 3456504)
I met Jason Cammisa at Laguna Seca the other day and we had a nice chat about various cars.
When I asked if he drove the new BRZ, his eyes started shining with excitement and told me to wait for the Hagerty video on the 17th.

I wonder if the journalist at the event could even talk to each other about their driving impressions. The cat is already out of the bag if you’re fluent in Japanese.

alex87f 08-14-2021 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by timurrrr (Post 3456504)
I met Jason Cammisa at Laguna Seca the other day and we had a nice chat about various cars.
When I asked if he drove the new BRZ, his eyes started shining with excitement and told me to wait for the Hagerty video on the 17th.

Is he really obnoxious IRL, or is it just his internet persona?

Ernest72 08-14-2021 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PulsarBeeerz (Post 3456506)
I don't think there is a headache. Many of those folks myself included have concluded, that it isn't worth the upgrade/debt. Modded paid off vehicles and all. The next performance vehicle personally would have to be a significant jump in capability. I'm almost old enough for a C7, no New Balances just Nikes.:D

I am with you. Keep my DD 16 BRZ and put that money into other things. Making my 04 WRX faster or another car. I do want to drive one just to see, would love to drive one with bolt ons and a tune in the future, just to see. If I was up for a car it would be on the list for sure.

timurrrr 08-14-2021 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by alex87f (Post 3456531)
Is he really obnoxious IRL, or is it just his internet persona?

Yeah, he's definitely acting in videos :)
He's a great guy to talk with IRL.

Veloist 08-15-2021 06:04 PM

When does the embargo end???

12:00 AM tonight???

Man I can’t wait.

Sport-Tech 08-15-2021 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Veloist (Post 3456722)
When does the embargo end???

12:00 AM tonight???

Man I can’t wait.

Often an embargo ends at 8am ET.

Blighty 08-16-2021 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PulsarBeeerz (Post 3456506)
I don't think there is a headache. Many of those folks myself included have concluded, that it isn't worth the upgrade/debt. Modded paid off vehicles and all. The next performance vehicle personally would have to be a significant jump in capability. I'm almost old enough for a C7, no New Balances just Nikes.:D

There will be another generation of modders on this final gen of the car for sure though. It will be interesting what headers, E85 and a tube get, its not exactly going to break the bank for that, and potentially put out similar levels to what the GR Yaris is stock (268hp at the crank)

Jianlun 08-16-2021 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Blighty (Post 3456782)
There will be another generation of modders on this final gen of the car for sure though. It will be interesting what headers, E85 and a tube get, its not exactly going to break the bank for that, and potentially put out similar levels to what the GR Yaris is stock (268hp at the crank)

Last NA dino (or corn) juice analogue(ish) FR car. I will take whatever I can tune out of it. Hahaha. Hmmmm, ITB cable throttle anyone...

Yoshoobaroo 08-16-2021 09:04 AM

It’s crazy to think this is the last NA FR car. Is it? I can’t think of anything else.

Zandermannnn 08-16-2021 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3456801)
It’s crazy to think this is the last NA FR car. Is it? I can’t think of anything else.

I think it's the last one that has been announced at least. Maybe next-gen Mustang? In this class of car though I'm sure it is, especially if you want a manual and low weight.

trollman 08-16-2021 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by timurrrr (Post 3456504)
I met Jason Cammisa at Laguna Seca the other day and we had a nice chat about various cars.
When I asked if he drove the new BRZ, his eyes started shining with excitement and told me to wait for the Hagerty video on the 17th.

Nice, his previous video on gen2 power parity vs Miata is the main reason I’m planning to get a brz

Pete 08-16-2021 10:58 AM

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Ghost of Akina 08-16-2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete (Post 3456828)

The struggle is real lol!!!

Sasquachulator 08-16-2021 11:29 AM

nobody knows what time the embargo lifts? lol

Sport-Tech 08-16-2021 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sasquachulator (Post 3456835)
nobody knows what time the embargo lifts? lol

From past experience it's usually in the morning ET. Maybe they are lifting it at noon ET to be fairer to the West Coasters - it's all about those clicks.

trippinbillies40 08-16-2021 11:58 AM

I was under the impression it lifts tomorrow, not today?

Zandermannnn 08-16-2021 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by trippinbillies40 (Post 3456843)
I was under the impression it lifts tomorrow, not today?

Yep, embargo lifts tomorrow not today. A few Youtubers confirmed it on Instagram.

phyz1ks 08-16-2021 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by trippinbillies40 (Post 3456843)
I was under the impression it lifts tomorrow, not today?

Joe Raiti from Raiti's Rides says his video will be up tomorrow by 7am EDT


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