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NEED ADVICES on buying an used BRZ

Hi guys!

I just registered in this club to ask this very important question.

I would like to buy an used BRZ. I found three private sellers in Montreal, Canada. Could you please give me some advices on which one is better, or none of them is good?

1. 2016 BRZ sport-tech (limited), 43000 km (26718mi), CAD 19000 (USD 15398)

Mods:
- tomei UEL headers
- mxp comp rs catback
- tein street basis coilovers
- 18" avid.1 av20 wheels
- seidoworks whale tail spoiler
- valenti sequential tail lights

2. 2015 BRZ Aozora (Series.Blue), 60000 km (37282mi), CAD 18000 (USD 14587)

No mods

3. 2015 BRZ sport-tech (limited), 82000 km (50952mi), CAD 14500 (USD 11751), CAD 11500 (USD 9319) if return to stock

Mods:
- new clutch and brakes
- Tein z lowering springs
- Wheels: AodHan ds02
- Doors , license plate and interior lights all LED.
- Exhaust: invidia N1 with burnt titanium tips plus tomei UEL header.
- Tuned: stage 2+ with launch control and flatfoot shifting.
- Taillights: Valentin sequential.
- Lip kit: front lip, side skirt and rear spats.

4. There is another dealer car that is 2013 BRZ sport-tech(limited), 106000 km (65865 mi), CAD 16000 (USD 13000) including 3 year powertrain warranty

I am hesitate because I saw a lot of small problem for 2013 ones.

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I have not test drive them, but assuming the conditions are all good, which one do you think has the most value for money?

I will test drive them and do the pre-purchase inspection in the future. I just need some general advices on these three, or any other related buying suggestions.

If you have a BRZ for sale that is near Ottawa, feel free to PM me.

Thanks in advance!

I would tend to go with a non-modified one.

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Originally Posted by x808drifter (Post 3445321)

#2 hands down.

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Originally Posted by RBman (Post 3445323)

I would tend to go with a non-modified one.

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Thanks for your advice. I do want an unmodified one, but it's in blue and I want white. If it's white then I will definitely go for it.

What do you think about the 4th one, dealer car?

Number #2. The dealer one makes me a bit suspicious on how or why they would offer such warranty. Some major repairs must had happened in order for them to offer that. Plus 2015 and 37K miles on #2 is a pretty good purchase. Doesn't need any major repairs other than maybe taking a look at Trans/Diff/Radiator Fluids.

#1 ain't bad either. But that exhaust combo is annoying. Loud and droney. Unless he kept a catted Front Pipe. But it'll still be a bit loud.

Assuming they are all of equal condition #2, but you will likely want to ditch that Invidia N1. They are known to be loud.

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Originally Posted by spcmafia (Post 3445342)

#1 ain't bad either. But that exhaust combo is annoying. Loud and droney. Unless he kept a catted Front Pipe. But it'll still be a bit loud.

Thank you!

The 4th one actually has the best CarFax report I have ever seen:
https://vhr.carfax.ca/?id=icO+eQ7L0I...4K59OErI4niQUE

For the 1st and 3rd ones, I also worry about the noise and drone. It's gonna be my daily car for at least 2 years, I don't think I can bear with the drone.

The 3rd has stock exhaust included. But that mods, tune and new clutch make me feel that the owner beat the car pretty hard.

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Originally Posted by x808drifter (Post 3445321)

#2 hands down.

there's nothing to say that #2 wasn't a wildly modified hacked to pieces SEMA build that was returned to stock only to balance out the credit card debt of the seller....

saying it was unmodified, and actually getting eye's on it are 2 very different things...

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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3445347)

Assuming they are all of equal condition #2, but you will likely want to ditch that Invidia N1. They are known to be loud.

Thank you.

I thought it's the Tomei UEL made it loud?

A bit off topic, but is there any relatively quiet exhaust setup that can also fix the torque dip like the Tomei UEL do?

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3445355)

Thank you.

Yes I know I can't fully trust anyone. Do you think the pre-purchase inspection can find out whether the car was modified?

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Originally Posted by JeffZZZ (Post 3445359)

Thank you.

I thought it's the Tomei UEL made it loud?

A bit off topic, but is there any relatively quiet exhaust setup that can also fix the torque dip like the Tomei UEL do?

Catless is what makes it loud. You can tame it down with the right exhaust setup, the N1 will be loud with a catless header.

Quiet and not having a lot of drone is going to depend on the whole setup.

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Originally Posted by JeffZZZ (Post 3445348)

That's not bad, but I'm leaning towards #1 more at this point actually. You can always sell the current catback or trade it for something quieter (Q300, R400). Reason being is that even though the cars receive some undercoating protection, the last car has been on the road for a considerable longer amount of time. Is not alarming, but I would personally purchase vehicle 2015+.

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Originally Posted by JeffZZZ (Post 3445361)

Thank you.

Yes I know I can't fully trust anyone. Do you think the pre-purchase inspection can find out whether the car was modified?

i better addressed that in your other thread.

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145931

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3445350)

i would prefer the one without any mods. but the real deciding factor is how the mods were done--the one with no mods could have been hacked to pieces and restored just enough back to stock to look pretty for resale. if there was an aftermarket radio, did they just go at the wires with a hatchet, or did they research and locate a proper plug-in connector? did their aftermarket exhaust not fit, so they bodged it in with a hack welder, or did they get the proper fittings?

there's a right way and a wrong way to modify a car for the long term. you need to decide if the previous owner hacked it into their own vision of the ideal for just a temporary project, or if they did things to stick around properly, or if they modified it in such a way that they were mindful of the next owner.