Plans for your new BRZ?
 

Been quite some time since I've been around here. After having three different first gen cars, I'm currently twins-less and rocking a 2020 STI, but will be selling it to order a new BRZ the day orders open up.

Anyone have specific plans for theirs? This will be the first time I go crazy on modifying a car. Already have the ok from the wife to do whatever I want to it, so looking to build a car for time attack and let it slot into XSA for autocross.

I'm waiting to see more documentation on parts, but fingers crossed this motor has the same internals as the current FA24 turbo. Will end up supercharging this car and putting it on flex fuel with larger injectors and a better pump, and hoping it can make 350-400 at the wheels somewhat reliably. Will put a built block in it if needed.

From there. MCS 2-way remote coilovers, Zebulon aero, brakes if no brembo package is offered...

Two biggest unknowns right now:
-Do I go WRB with the bright yellow rally car star cluster livery, or stick with my typical favorite white car and black wheel combo
-Will the wife's "do whatever you want" stance go away when she sees fender flares and a cutoff wheel coming out?


Anyways, anyone have plans for a new one outside of daily and/or track days?

Are you trying to summon 100 stancebois here ? :cool:

Waiting for FA24 swap kits to be done for 1st gen cars so I can drop one of those in from a wrecked car.

I'm looking for a fun daily driver that is reliable overall.

With the torque dip being fixed, I honestly don't see myself doing anything besides maybe a catback. Ready to just have a stock car I don't have to worry about scraping, tune, etc that's still simple and fun with a MT.

The difficult thing for me is choosing between a red GR86 and a gray BRZ

I am of the same mind.
May at most consider the STI muffler for something sensible and be a keeper.

In an interview with one of the developers/engineers (via auto-translate), they were stating this was their pinnacle for the NA boxer engine.

Not a bad way to sign off the era of NA ICE.

Eh, I'd probably still do headers and a catback and probably a flex fuel kit too.

Same! I'm fine with keeping it NA and doing those mods for the additional power bump. Such a light (cheap) car will start to become REALLY fun in the power level it achieves off of those basic mods.

I will reserve judgement until I drive one. But I have a feeling everyone will still complain it’s slow. Just knowing how people are. I will likely not get one unless my trade in was phenomenal.

Our first Gen cars with headers and correct tune will probably be close in performance. Once the same is done to G2 cars there will be no comparison

Before warranty is up:
- Move my RCE T2 coilovers over (assuming they bolt on)
- Track alignment
- Move my Wilwood BBK over (assuming I don't buy the PP)
- Move my wheels/tires over (assuming 5x100)
- Oil cooler

After warranty:
- E85 tune if it's easy to do as the first gen

It will be my summer daily driver, maybe some autox. I haven't done it before but have wanted to. It doesn't look like there will be a performance package option, so I will likely brembo swap it myself.

Sadly it doesn't look like PP will be an option, but I'm right there with you, though I'll likely just do a brembo swap from an 08-17 sti.

Year 1
Steering wheel - Momo Mod 07 steering wheel and some way to relocate the many buttons.
MT gear knob - self machined small little knob
Seats - tillett B8 driver and B5 passenger, Buddy Club rails
Battery - antigravity 51R, custom mount under seat.
Wheels - 17x7.5 rpf1

Year 2
Exhaust - hks spec-L
Brakes - AP sprint kit
Carbon propshaft - DSS
Carbon boot - sebon??
Air intake - some big ass filter that take up the whole front like current gen's TRD or Injen.

Year 3
Flywheel - excedy TF02
Final drive - 4.5FD

I'm looking forward to Street Class autox, and hoping it gets classed in DS so we can reclaim that class for the lightweight sportscars!

My 2015 will stay in STX and once it isn't competitive there, it will become a purely fun/track-day car.

I'm waiting for factory Brembos and 7.5" wheels. Then I'll get:
- The lightest wheels possible within reason, with the minimum allowed offset.
- The most competitive 200TW tire available at the time.
- Probably Koni Sport adjustable dampers.
- One sway bar (probably rear for a GR86 or front for a BRZ)
- A lighter exhaust, but not annoyingly loud on the highway.
- Whatever tricks I can do to get more camber, within the rules.
- A good alignment.

Other than that I'm going to just have fun and enjoy the seat time. Prepping my car for STX has been a journey, and one I'm glad I'm on (almost done...). But I do miss the simplicity of Street class, where you only have dampers and tire pressures to play with. STX has so many setup options it is hard to know what to chase next. Not to mention the cost of building a competitive STX car is $10k+.

I'm pretty sure it will get classed in CS, as it's basically an S2000 with a roof.
And back seats. And McPherson front suspension.

I do both AutoX (STX) and 86DC (Street class).
I'd be interested to try the more basic classes (CS and Stock respectively),
but unfortunately 86DC Stock doesn't allow changing springs or dampers
or bars, which puts me at a disadvantage in CS.
At the same time, even maxing out what's allowed in CS will put me
at a disadvantage in the 86DC Street class, and I prefer my cars lowered,
so perhaps I'll just do STX. Or is it going to be STR?
86DC is more of a priority for me than AutoX, so I can sacrifice some.

However, I still have no idea how 86DC will update the classes for the 2nd gen,
and I don't even know how many participants are going to get 2nd gens.
It's possible that there won't be a Stock class for the 2nd gens.

If I bought one, I'd prep it for STX.

...but I'm really hoping and praying the new cars don't get classed for at least another year. Between COVID last year and supply chain this year, my STX build has sort of been a bomb. I'll be upset if I don't get a full season from it.

I dont see myself upgrading to G2
if I didnt have 86/BRZ previously then yes

Probably what I did when I had my '15.

The widest wheel and sticky tires that will fit with out messing with the fenders.
Cat-back
Quality coilovers
Flex fuel tune

It all depends on what the new engine actually feels like....

If it really doesn't need any more power, I'd just get 245's on all 4 corners and mildly stiffer sway bars to reduce the body roll from the improved grip.

If it does need little more power I'd do headers and a tune. Maybe E85 on at least one of the maps.

If it needs a lot more power then I'll have to assess the F.I. options that will be out. I am optimistic that is not going to be necessary, that's the point of more displacement right?

I think it gets put in CS mostly because of 7.5" wide wheels. I think it'll be a huge underdog there, and a small underdog if it goes to DS.

And I'm not sure if they'll put it in STX yet or not. My guess is STR which really sucks because it'll get crushed there, but would likely end up being the dominant car in STX. The first gens can flood SSC and still have a place to play so my vote is STX, but unfortunately I don't get a vote lol.

Mine will definitely be a pretty maxed out STX/STR build for a few months before I slap a supercharger and aero on it.

First day Plans for the new BRZ: pick up two hookers, crash into a tree or fly off a guard rail into a ravine.

Think the extra hp/tq will give it a chance in CSP?
Or will it be BSP?

It belongs in DS if you ask me, and probably still loose to the CTR.

I hope it goes to STX, but it would make more sense to go to STU for a year then STX.

Knowing me, I will probably build it for ST.

Definitely belongs in DS but the 7.5" wheels and better torque is going to scare everyone into putting it into CS.

And it'll go STR before STU. But agree that it should go STX.

Either way, XSA for me because I'm a glutton for punishment and outside of Packwood, sites out here suck. I miss 2015 Midwest autocross with three huge concrete sites within 2.5 hours.

Garage is filling up with parts ready to go on when the car gets here. Wheels/tires ready to go, and just ordered MCS coilovers. Hoping I can verify front bars are the same shortly so I can get a Karcepts bar on the way. Rear bar actually looks the same, it's the bushings that are mounted differently, but need to verify this as well.

It'll be a fun first weekend for the car when it arrives. Livery and window tint, detailing, coilovers and wheels then alignment. Then out to Rocky Point and the coast to start breaking it in on some awesome roads.

Finding out how to order the center console piece for the automatic, to get the extra cupholder.

If it fits, I'll get you part numbers when the EPC loads '22 parts.

That would be sweet. I can't imagine that it shouldn't. I'll find out when I remove it to see if they crammed anything down there.

I’m between a new BRZ or a new Mustang GT

Hear me out ��

With either I’ll be buying a set of lightweight wheels and summer tires, along with good winter tires for the standard wheels since I’ll be DD’ing it in the winter in Chicago.

If I go Mustang I won’t touch the 5.0, but I’ll be dropping ~$4k in suspension upgrades right away.

If I go BRZ I won’t touch the suspension but I’ll be supercharging it (probably JRSC) as soon as it’s broken in and there’s a suitable kit available.

The two are weirdly opposite. I love Mustangs and I know big NA V8s are at least as endangered a species as affordable sportscars. It’s going to be a hard call.

But if it’s a BRZ, it’ll be light wheels and summer tires and likely a supercharger in the first ~year.

Hmm, I never noticed that... I wonder why they would have spent the time & money to change it unless something doesn't fit. It'll be interesting to see.

1st mod will be disabling the sound generator in the cabin.

2nd mod will likely be a Brembo swap from a 08-17 STI. they are a direct bolt on and keeps the bias within 1% of OEM if you use specifically use the 08+ rears.

Beyond wheels, I might lower it just a hair to fill that wheel well gap, something like the Eibach Pro-Kit springs.

I'd take the BRZ.Too much weight on that Mustang.Plus there are already supercharger kits in Japan ready to go on sale.I think you will enjoy it more than the Mustang.

Both are great cars, Mustang is out of the box straight line beast, with an amazing 5.0 coyote engine that brings great sounds.
BRZ is smaller, more nimble, fun car. Nee version seems to fix the biggest complaint people had, And then with a supercharger will have very similar performance on street and probably better performance on the circuit.

I would suggest to wait and drive the 22 BRZ before pulling the trigger, and I think you will not regret if you move to the Subaru’s direction.

That's why I plan on pulling it up first to see if they tucked anything extra there. I don't see why they would. I think they left it out so that there's ample elbow room for shifting the manual. I plan to use the holder for my phone, and not drinks.

Dropping an FA20 in it, because weight savings... :)

Plenty of Mustangs to go around. Grab the BRZ and it will be your last. Grab a used Mustang in the near future.
Silly logic and it could apply to both, but that's just how I see it considering that it will always be much easier to find a used Mustang.

Thanks for the input gang. I think I need to just relax, realize I’m not married to it, and if the new Mustang chassis a year or two from now is lighter and has AWD I can move to one of those whenever (IF I even want to).

I can get the Mustang for a bit under Invoice but even so it’s about $10k more than the BRZ, and that’s not nothing.

As much as I’d like the big engine for a DD I’ve owned an S2000 and an MR2 Turbo so I know the magic of that ~250hp / 2,800lbs / RWD combination. Best car I’ve ever personally driven was a ‘15 Cayman S and while the BRZ will never be MR it doesn’t need much additional power to hit a similar thrust-to-weight ratio.

So yeah, wheels/tires and a power adder would be the only immediate plans.

Also getting the rally livery on mine. Gotta represent the brand! :)

https://i.ibb.co/d60rfS1/BRZ-Rally.jpg

I was just thinking, there might be a good chance that it IS swappable. I'm thinking that maybe they didn't put the cupholder there on the manuals because it would interfere with shifting if there was a taller bottle or something.