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timurrrr 04-06-2021 04:32 PM

Is 2nd gen BRZ a ripoff of the TagAZ Aquila?
 
I found this low-volume Russian car from ~2013:
https://www.kolesa.ru/article/novyy-...ila-2013-03-21

Now I can't unsee the similarities between the front bumper (the grille, the lip under the grille) and the side skirts of the Aquila and the new BRZ:

https://i.imgur.com/qM98gW2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/1LXmOht.jpg

I gotta admit that I even prefer the more classical design of the sides of the front bumper on the Aquila over the penguins on the new BRZ. :lol:

[Note: I'm not serious, this is more of a joke. But still, the resemblance is uncanny. Sorry if I forever ruined the design of the BRZ-2 for you!]

HKz 04-06-2021 04:44 PM

glasses buddy...no resemblance at all. I look at proportions, not general shapes...

Transport3r 04-06-2021 04:47 PM

How high do you have to be for this to make sense? I’m not there yet

TheDonEffect 04-06-2021 06:47 PM

Yeah...

Frankly, I think the BRZ front bumper has more of a family resemblance to the MKIV Supra than the MKV Supra does by a long shot.

Mr.ac 04-06-2021 07:11 PM

That’s embarrassing dude. Your fanboi is showing.

Lantanafrs2 04-06-2021 07:52 PM

Who would ripoff that piece of shit

timurrrr 04-06-2021 09:47 PM

To people who think I'm serious, please re-read the last line of the first post :D

Found more info on that car! :bonk:
https://www.carthrottle.com/post/a5q45x8/

I have to say some of the prototypes don't look too bad:

https://i.imgur.com/i6PXBSF.jpg?1

They were even thinking about a racing series:

https://i.imgur.com/zWYNeOu.jpg

But...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPM_Motors
In 2021 the company filed for bankruptcy.

timurrrr 04-06-2021 09:53 PM

Also, did you know that the front end of Tesla Model 3 and Model Y was inspired by a Soviet-era shoe?

https://i.imgur.com/y9YsNo2.jpg?1https://i.imgur.com/USCYGg4.jpg?2

Tokay444 04-06-2021 10:06 PM

Ford Escape.

Transport3r 04-06-2021 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timurrrr (Post 3420493)
I have to say some of the prototypes don't look too bad


Please make an appointment with an optician. You need your vision corrected before you cause an accident on the road.

mazeroni 04-07-2021 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timurrrr (Post 3420366)
Now I can't unsee the similarities between the front bumper (the grille, the lip under the grille) and the side skirts of the Aquila and the new BRZ:

https://i.imgur.com/qM98gW2.jpg

I agree. The front especially. The weird blade side-skirts at the rear jutting out, the hips, the placement of the side-mirror arms, the front fenders being more rounded but then having hard creases down the hood, the indent for the front license plate holder, the running light design. The front fender humps are more Gen-1. Sure.

https://s.aolcdn.com/os/ab/_cms/2020...ru_BRZ_102.jpg

MSTiFK8R 04-07-2021 04:09 PM

also couldnt stand neglecting the similarities


why would you overpay for practically zero reason noone would tell from 10 yards?



anyone interested in bringin up one Aquila in descent condition next to your garage door, PM


have plenty of em in here for peanuts


Mike

Tcoat 04-09-2021 07:02 AM

I get to say this about once a week now but it bears repeating:
There are only so many configurations of aero design that make sense for a production level car. These configurations all will result in a somewhat similar shape especially in the front of the different cars. It is not coincidence, design theft, based on, etc that dictates these similar front ends and body shapes. It is just simple physics.

Oh and that actually looks far better than the new BRZ!

ZDan 04-09-2021 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3421380)
I get to say this about once a week now but it bears repeating:
There are only so many configurations of aero design that make sense for a production level car. These configurations all will result in a somewhat similar shape especially in the front of the different cars.

As an aerospace engineer who has done optimization of full-scale road vehicles in a wind tunnel, I can say this isn't exactly true. The ancient VW ad about a Golf being more aerodynamic than a Porsche 928 has some truth in it... Also the front of a typical road car's shape usually isn't as important as the rear for drag. It's no prob to move the air away from the vehicle, much trickier to put it back together aft...

Quote:

Oh and that actually looks far better than the new BRZ!
It looks pretty crude, but the overall shape and design philosophy I approve of! I'd love for there to be a family of FT86 cars including a low-slung 4-door kinda like this!

Also, new BRZ looks way better than Hakone 86 ;)


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