Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 3417768)

xp10's are safe bet, will be trying ds1.11 after I finish the carbotechs, I like my ds2500's but they're not fit for track duty.

Originally Posted by Jstyle (Post 3417679)

So I did my first track day in a car and I LOVED it. I had so much fun out there and my instructor (Ben) was fantastic. Having the car completely stock with just GT Radial SX2’s did me just fine. The morning sessions were in the rain and while I loved the learning opportunity of driving on the track in the rain for sure, I enjoyed the last session in the afternoon where the rain was finally cooked off.

The only thing that I feel like I need before my next track day is a new set of pads. I was thinking the CSG CX2, W5, XP10’s or Hawk HP+. This car will see really minimal street time and almost exclusively track time and I’m still at the early stages of learning. My main goal is that I want a pad that won’t fade in 20 minute track sessions and won’t eat a rotor. I’d also love a somewhat quiet and low dusting pad but those don’t matter so much.

Also I’m pretty sure the stock rotors are still on the car. Even with some pretty hard braking sessions they don’t feel warped so I don’t know if I HAVE to change the rotors. If I do, I was thinking about just going cheap and getting the Centric’s but I’m also thinking about the StopTech Slotted... But again open to opinions.

Thanks all!

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 3417787)

Every race pad is hard on rotors cold! :D

Originally Posted by 86league (Post 3417788)

I have had issues with XP10s and uneven pad transfer leading to fairly severe brake shudder. I replaced rotors and tried to be very careful bedding them in, and had the problem occur again. Talking with people at track events and vendors they say it's pretty common with Carbotech/G-loc compounds. Several people I know (BRZ/Miata owners) have moved away from carbotech due to the issue.

Carbotech pads do work for a lot of people.

I'd like to try the ds1.11, but at $531 for the front set (brembo calipers) I'll try some other options first. PFC08s will be the next pad I try ($189/set).

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 3417789)

My question to you would be, do you want something "enough for now", but may (will) outgrow, or do you want something that will basically be good for you forever, regardless of how fast you get?

Definitely do good brake fluid, an oil cooler, and some camber bolts as well.
That's really all you need to enjoy the car!

Note that all of these mods are sustainability mods; none of them are "go fast" parts, but rather "go longer" parts.

Originally Posted by 86league (Post 3417788)

I have had issues with XP10s and uneven pad transfer leading to fairly severe brake shudder. I replaced rotors and tried to be very careful bedding them in, and had the problem occur again. Talking with people at track events and vendors they say it's pretty common with Carbotech/G-loc compounds. Several people I know (BRZ/Miata owners) have moved away from carbotech due to the issue.

Carbotech pads do work for a lot of people.

I'd like to try the ds1.11, but at $531 for the front set (brembo calipers) I'll try some other options first. PFC08s will be the next pad I try ($189/set).

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 3417800)

Sounds to me like you're overheating the XP10. It's a great beginner's pad, and you've likely exceeded their capacity, based on your feedback.

You'll likely prefer the other pads you've mentioned, but I'd also recommend giving the C2 a shot, if you're considering DS1.11 money. You'll easily make up the cost in life alone.

Due to the extremely high limits of the C2, you may have difficulty burnishing the pad on a NA car without sticky tires, unless you do long sessions to build enough heat.

Originally Posted by 86league (Post 3417810)

Thanks for the feedback. I thought about moving to XP12s or higher but I had enough trouble bedding the XP10s on the street.

I'll see how I get along with the PFCs (already purchased) and then probably try something different.

What are the expected differences between the CSG Sprint (C2) and the Track-day pads (CX1) besides price? Wondering how they compare to each other.

Originally Posted by Jstyle (Post 3417826)

So you'd recommend the Cx2 if I'm only doing track days not the C2 right?

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 3417800)

Sounds to me like you're overheating the XP10. It's a great beginner's pad, and you've likely exceeded their capacity, based on your feedback.

You'll likely prefer the other pads you've mentioned, but I'd also recommend giving the C2 a shot, if you're considering DS1.11 money. You'll easily make up the cost in life alone.

Due to the extremely high limits of the C2, you may have difficulty burnishing the pad on a NA car without sticky tires, unless you do long sessions to build enough heat.

Originally Posted by TommyW (Post 3417893)

Second track day gonna need coils
Third track day gonna need header and tune
Fourth track day gonna need sticky tires

Welcome to the rabbit hole

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