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ThaDonJsuan 03-27-2021 11:20 PM

Reco for brake pads for track use?
 
Hi all,


I currently have Brembos with stock brake pads, but i want to get some pads that are better for the track. Any suggestions? I would prefer to have something a bit more durable than performance, if it matters (I'm still a beginner so not trying to set records or anything). Thanks.

N1rve 03-31-2021 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaDonJsuan (Post 3417399)
Hi all,


I currently have Brembos with stock brake pads, but i want to get some pads that are better for the track. Any suggestions? I would prefer to have something a bit more durable than performance, if it matters (I'm still a beginner so not trying to set records or anything). Thanks.

Probably want dedicated track pads. Not to talk down to you or anything, but as a beginner, you'll probably be fearful of highspeed corner entries and braking late so you'll probably be braking more often and eating up the pads like crazy.

Probably like HAWK HT-10, HAWK DTC-60, Ferodo, Carbotech, etc. Something that isn't a street pad or a "high performance street pad". Swap back to stock pads after you're done. I don't actually know what fits in OEM Brembo calipers, but I am sure Brembo probably carries a more aggressive pad.

Don't bother with any drilled or slotted rotors, blanks are best.

Also run dedicated track tires like Cup2s, AD08R, R888R, RS4, something a long that line (if you can afford).

Recommend upgraded brake fluid as well.

Grady 03-31-2021 07:17 PM

Upgrade brake fluid first. I would not worry about pads until they tell you they are not up to your driving ability. More durable than performance are stock pads.

ZDan 04-01-2021 08:21 AM

I've never tried the stock PP Brembo pads at the track, they may well be OK for a few laps. But yeah, ultimately you're likely to need more track-appropriate pads and better to go in prepared. There's no one answer here as different people, even running the same lap times in the same car, can have very different requirements for feel and place very different demands on the brakes.

I've run Carbotech XP8 and XP10 on other cars and I thought they were pretty good and lasted well enough (~10-12 track days).

Currently running CSG C2 which have better bite/higher friction feel which I like. $$$ tho... They have other options as well.

You might contact the supplier with your intended usage and desires/expectations to get a recommendation.

As mentioned above, fluid is important too. I've never had any problems just running off-the-shelf parts store DOT4, no need to source more "exotic" brake fluid IMO.

N1rve 04-01-2021 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ZDan (Post 3418709)
I've never tried the stock PP Brembo pads at the track, they may well be OK for a few laps. But yeah, ultimately you're likely to need more track-appropriate pads and better to go in prepared. There's no one answer here as different people, even running the same lap times in the same car, can have very different requirements for feel and place very different demands on the brakes.

I've run Carbotech XP8 and XP10 on other cars and I thought they were pretty good and lasted well enough (~10-12 track days).

Currently running CSG C2 which have better bite/higher friction feel which I like. $$$ tho... They have other options as well.

You might contact the supplier with your intended usage and desires/expectations to get a recommendation.

As mentioned above, fluid is important too. I've never had any problems just running off-the-shelf parts store DOT4, no need to source more "exotic" brake fluid IMO.


Brake fluid like this? ;) Very popular on the M cars.

https://www.amazon.com/Castrol-SRF-R.../dp/B002TM4GBQ

ZDan 04-01-2021 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by N1rve (Post 3418773)
Brake fluid like this? ;) Very popular on the M cars.

https://www.amazon.com/Castrol-SRF-R.../dp/B002TM4GBQ

$67.58
:bellyroll:
Some people just LOVE to spend money on "special" things, whether they need it or not...

N1rve 04-01-2021 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ZDan (Post 3418780)
$67.58
:bellyroll:
Some people just LOVE to spend money on "special" things, whether they need it or not...

There are some differences between this and RBF600.

SRF:
Wet boiling point is 270deg. C
Dry boiling point is 310deg. C

Motul:
Dry boiling point 594F(312C)
Wet boiling point 399F(204C).


But like SRF $70L vs RBF 600 $32L.... almost 2X the price! :iono:

ZDan 04-01-2021 03:40 PM

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I've never had a need for anything beyond this, even in a 550hp FD...

gen3v8 04-01-2021 04:16 PM

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Running this for years. $9.85. Never Failed. The only thing I do is bleed the fluid that has been heated in the calipers out before every track day. This keeps the brake fluid in the system fresh as after a few bleeds it`s all replaced.

CSG Mike 04-01-2021 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaDonJsuan (Post 3417399)
Hi all,


I currently have Brembos with stock brake pads, but i want to get some pads that are better for the track. Any suggestions? I would prefer to have something a bit more durable than performance, if it matters (I'm still a beginner so not trying to set records or anything). Thanks.

Lets get you something entry level, unless you have a big power increase and/or sticky tires.

PM me to order.

spike021 04-01-2021 05:30 PM

I'd recommend doing some research on the forums (we have a great subforum with tons of info) before just going along and buying one that someone wants you to order.

CrowsFeast 04-06-2021 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by N1rve (Post 3418852)
There are some differences between this and RBF600.

SRF:
Wet boiling point is 270deg. C
Dry boiling point is 310deg. C

Motul:
Dry boiling point 594F(312C)
Wet boiling point 399F(204C).


But like SRF $70L vs RBF 600 $32L.... almost 2X the price! :iono:

RBF around me was $35+ for 500 ml last time I looked...
So I stuck with Typ200 (too bad you can't get super blue anymore)

DarkPira7e 04-06-2021 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CrowsFeast (Post 3420246)
(too bad you can't get super blue anymore)

I still have an unopened can of the ATE superblue in my garage. I will keep it forever

N1rve 04-06-2021 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CrowsFeast (Post 3420246)
RBF around me was $35+ for 500 ml last time I looked...
So I stuck with Typ200 (too bad you can't get super blue anymore)

On Amazon USA, it's 32 dollars for 2X 500ml for RBF600

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KY29SY6...ing=UTF8&psc=1


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