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Shazzam121 03-23-2021 04:49 PM

Steve's Track-Ready Daily FR-S
 
I figured, since I'm looking at putting a number of Weird Parts on my FR-S, I may as well start a build log for it. Here's the car as it sits today, mostly stock:

https://i.imgur.com/sDnqcVR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QhgzeSN.jpg

So far I've just done a Pioneer head unit install, with an iDataLink Maestro RR that gets me OBD2 data in the radio. The Maestro was originally installed using the OBD plug, but I relocated it to the Option Connector a couple weeks back and can confirm it works nearly fine -- I lost TPMS, but that never really worked anyway. Shrug.

In the next couple days, it's going in for a full transmission job. I got tired of the cold-weather grind here in upstate NY, so I'm doing pretty much everything that's ever been suggested to fix it:
- Perrin Engine Mount
- Perrin Trans Mount
- Perrin Shift Bushing
- Whiteline Trans Bushing
- ACT Clutch
- Synchrotech Carbon Synchros
- Verus Clutch Fork
- Verus Clutch Pivot
After that, it's finally time for some real traction. I have a set of 17x8 +40 Konig Dekagrams on order, wrapped in Michelin Pilot Sport 4Ses. I'll keep this thread updates with thoughts on the driveline parts, and the new shoes, once they're all installed.

After that, the mod list has everything from coilovers to cosmetics to a slightly-smaller-than-factory-but-not-enough-to-remove-the-airbag steering wheel. More mods, and more photos, to come.

Shazzam121 04-02-2021 10:51 AM

Well, bad transmission news. The shop finally got a chance to tear it down, and 3rd and 4th are totally shot. 6th isn't in great shape either, and 2nd and 5th were already replaced back when I had a factory warranty. Take it from me: if you're thinking about doing carbon synchros, don't wait. Driving two winters on gears that wouldn't mesh hasn't done me any favors here.

Now, working with the shop on two options. I can do a partial rebuild with new Toyota parts, or order in a used transmission. If I can make the costs work, I'd prefer to avoid a used trans -- there's no guarantee it'd be in any better shape than mine, and I could end up right back here again in six months.

I was hoping to be able to provide a comprehensive guide on how to fix synchro issues and gear grind, but now it's looking like I won't have exactly an apples to apples comparison to give you all. I'll still discuss the changes made by any of my parts that still can be installed (clutch, mounts, etc.) but even if I can still get carbon synchros done I won't be able to compare them on the same gear set.

pope 04-02-2021 10:57 AM

Mazworx CD009 swap is $4999 for a nearly indestructible transmission. Although used transmissions are only a couple hundred, so even replacing it twice a year will take years to add up.

Shazzam121 04-02-2021 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pope (Post 3419091)
Mazworx CD009 swap is $4999 for a nearly indestructible transmission. Although used transmissions are only a couple hundred, so even replacing it twice a year will take years to add up.

Honestly, the CD009 was one of the first things that passed through my head. If I was doing this repair on a higher budget, that's probably what I'd go with. Or, if we're talking a "won the lottery" budget, maybe a Hollinger

pope 04-02-2021 11:15 AM

I just figured I’d mention it since it could be better investment versus a rebuild (depending on the extent of the rebuild and overall cost).

Shazzam121 04-02-2021 01:27 PM

So, final word from the shop is in: a rebuild is about a $400 premium above a 24,000-mile used transmission. Because I hate my bank account, I'm doing it. I'll still be able to talk about the difference carbon synchros make in the gearbox, and can review the ACT clutch and Perrin mounts (spoiler alert: had them on a previous Subie, they're great).

Looking forward to a month of ramen, but hopefully this should make for a near-perfect FR-S transmission

Shazzam121 04-09-2021 02:05 PM

Welp, Konig's entire inventory seems backordered until approximately the Rapture. So, we're getting real creative with my second-choice wheel:

https://i.imgur.com/hWxVynC.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/7awsAJo.jpg

Enkei RPF1s in an 18x8 +35 running 225/40-18 Pilot Sport 4S tires. My 56.1 to 73.1 hub centric rings I got for the Konigs still fit here, and the center caps should arrive over the weekend.

I know, a stock FR-S on silver RPF1s. Never seen that before, right?

jflogerzi 04-09-2021 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shazzam121 (Post 3421502)
Welp, Konig's entire inventory seems backordered until approximately the Rapture. So, we're getting real creative with my second-choice wheel:

https://i.imgur.com/hWxVynC.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/7awsAJo.jpg

Enkei RPF1s in an 18x8 +35 running 225/40-18 Pilot Sport 4S tires. My 56.1 to 73.1 hub centric rings I got for the Konigs still fit here, and the center caps should arrive over the weekend.

I know, a stock FR-S on silver RPF1s. Never seen that before, right?

Don't break what's not broken

Shazzam121 04-09-2021 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 3421680)
Don't break what's not broken

They really are objectively the best wheel for the money. Lowest weight, most strength, most fitment options.

Jasper 04-10-2021 05:14 PM

Loving the bumper chips. Shows it's being driven, and driven hard like it should be.

Shazzam121 04-10-2021 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasper (Post 3421946)
Loving the bumper chips. Shows it's being driven, and driven hard like it should be.


It’s absolutely no show car. I did give in and fill a paint chip on the fender to prevent rust, but that’s... let’s say not show car quality


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Jasper 04-10-2021 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shazzam121 (Post 3421967)
It’s absolutely no show car. I did give in and fill a paint chip on the fender to prevent rust, but that’s... let’s say not show car quality


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Jay Leno would call that patina. :clap:

Shazzam121 04-20-2021 11:06 AM

https://i.imgur.com/e0bwVk6.jpg
Home again, garden grove

She's back home! Engine mounts are in, transmission is rebuilt, carbon synchros and Whiteline bushings and ACT clutches oh my.

The difference with these mounts is incredible. Each detonation of the engine comes through the pedals, the seat, and the steering wheel. The car feels more eager, it wants to rev out, though of course I won't let it until the clutch has some more mileage. It's stiffer and louder, but it's by no means unmanageable. And it's worth it for the shifter feel -- no slop, it's now fully bolt-action precise.

The clutch, the ACT HDSS, is grippy without being unmanageable. It's the absolute lightest flywheel I would want in this car -- maybe more torque would make their Prolite flywheel manageable, but as it is the Streetlite is right on the edge of Too Light. Unfortunately, there isn't a ton of feel through the clutch pedal. Pedal effort is similar to stock, but it's a completely numb experience. I'm seeing an MTEC clutch spring in my future.

As for the synchros, I drove it home from the shop on a warm day -- it'll be a while before it gets cold enough out here to be sure they're really helping. The shifting action did feel more mechanical than stock, and no gear even threatened to grind, but that may also just be the result of short shifting on a gorgeous day.

Next up, she goes in to a different shop for oil, diff fluid, brake fluid, pads and rotors, and getting the TPMS activated on the new wheels. I'll follow up with my thoughts on the Carbotech 1521 pads on Centric plain rotors. How am I gonna bed them in when I can't rev the engine out? We'll burn that bridge when we get to it.

Shazzam121 04-22-2021 12:46 PM

https://i.imgur.com/akpq92v.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fQwqJJe.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6u5iUFl.jpg

Looks like somebody’s feet made some new friends, I’m talking about shoes.

It may be too cold out to test the limits of the new Pilot Sport 4Ses, but at least they look good. One thing I can test, though, is the new brake setup: the Carbotech 1521 is my new favorite pad. I haven't even had a chance to bed them in yet, but the stopping power is leagues better than my old Stoptech pads. Initial bite isn't great compared to my mental benchmark (Focus RS Brembos) but I've got a Grimmspeed master cylinder brace sitting on my kitchen counter ready to address that.

The clutch is still breaking in, but it's already confirming my belief that nothing lighter than ACT's Streetlite flywheel should end up on a street car. It'll get better as it breaks in, but hill starts with low torque, a lightweight flywheel, and a laggy electronic throttle are... interesting.

Next mod: seat time! Once the last of the snow melts up here, it's HPDE season.


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