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yooooooo 03-19-2021 06:01 AM

Toyota 86 Fuel Consumption
 
Hey guys so I recently bought a 2019 Toyota 86 GTS used from a dealer. I drive pretty well by always shifting below 3k and coasting whenever I can. However the gauge shows that I do 10.5L/100km. I drive half suburban and highway. Also when I unscrew the gas cap it makes a hissing noise? Is this normal?

Purist 03-19-2021 06:09 AM

Yes.

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Thefalls 03-19-2021 06:10 AM

Its better you calculate by filling up full tank and calculating how many kms you covered.

Hissing noise is normal. Don't stress about that.

And reset the fuel estimation gauge with every fill up. It will be more precise this way.

yooooooo 03-19-2021 06:35 AM

Yea I have been. Thanks.

Purist 03-19-2021 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Thefalls (Post 3414986)
Its better you calculate by filling up full tank and calculating how many kms you covered.


And reset the fuel estimation gauge with every fill up. It will be more precise this way.

I'm pretty sure the fuel consumption is calculated using data from the fuel map so it should be extremely precise

. I could be wrong...





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Tcoat 03-19-2021 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Thefalls (Post 3414986)
Its better you calculate by filling up full tank and calculating how many kms you covered.

Hissing noise is normal. Don't stress about that.

And reset the fuel estimation gauge with every fill up. It will be more precise this way.

Actually the fuel consumption gauge shows an average. The longer you leave it without resetting the more accurate that average is since it has more varied data points.
It is the total opposite to what you would intuitively think is happening.

RToyo86 03-19-2021 09:15 AM

For your driving habits 10.5L/100 seems high. That's around 22mpg.

I get 9.5L/100 or 24mpg average in the winter with more idle time and long warm ups.

Dadhawk 03-19-2021 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by yooooooo (Post 3414984)
However the gauge shows that I do 10.5L/100km. I drive half suburban and highway.

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Originally Posted by RToyo86 (Post 3415004)
For your driving habits 10.5L/100 seems high. That's around 22mpg.

I get 9.5L/100 or 24mpg average in the winter with more idle time and long warm ups.

I'm guessing you fellow drivers must do a good bit of city driving? I think I'd have to punch a hole in my tank to get that low. Over 180,000 miles I've averaged 33.5MPH (7.02L/100km).

It's actually improved over time, even though the majority of the travel is the same roads. I posted about that earlier today (and on a couple of previous occasions in my owner's journal).

yooooooo 03-19-2021 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 3415007)
I'm guessing you fellow drivers must do a good bit of city driving? I think I'd have to punch a hole in my tank to get that low. Over 180,000 miles I've averaged 33.5MPH (7.02L/100km).

It's actually improved over time, even though the majority of the travel is the same roads. I posted about that earlier today (and on a couple of previous occasions in my owner's journal).

Yea that’s what I’ve been hearing. Should I go get it checked with a mechanic ?

Dadhawk 03-19-2021 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by yooooooo (Post 3415010)
Yea that’s what I’ve been hearing. Should I go get it checked with a mechanic ?

Obviously couldn't hurt, but it's so condition specific, it may be your "normal". I can't really say its a requirement if you aren't seeing any other issues.

RToyo86 03-19-2021 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 3415007)
I'm guessing you fellow drivers must do a good bit of city driving? I think I'd have to punch a hole in my tank to get that low. Over 180,000 miles I've averaged 33.5MPH (7.02L/100km).

It's actually improved over time, even though the majority of the travel is the same roads. I posted about that earlier today (and on a couple of previous occasions in my owner's journal).

It's a mix, but I also don't baby the car either. I regularly take the car up to 5-7k rpm on the drives home via back roads to my house on 80kmh roads.
My morning commute is mostly highway. I live 1 minute from the highway so I end up idling my car for 5 minutes in the morning so I don't jump on with a stone cold engine when it is -10°c of colder.

That's why I find it odd I still manage better mileage in my worst possible conditions than his regular.
In the summer I average around 28mpg under the same mix of driving.

Itsthebeast 03-19-2021 10:41 AM

I usually get between 29-30 for my average and I live in a stop and go city. 22 seems a bit low to me unless you're sudden stopping and stomping the gas at every stop, could also be the gas you're using. Lower octane gas usually gets lower milage for me from what I've noticed the few times I've used it

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Dadhawk 03-19-2021 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RToyo86 (Post 3415020)
It's a mix, but I also don't baby the car either.

I don't baby mine either, but I also don't ever idle for long (including warming up the car). Even in cold weather, I crank and go. Now, mind you I don't see but a handful of days a year below freezing where I live now, but even when I lived further N in the USA where that is the norm, I never warmed up my car.

RToyo86 03-19-2021 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 3415025)
I don't baby mine either, but I also don't ever idle for long (including warming up the car). Even in cold weather, I crank and go. Now, mind you I don't see but a handful of days a year below freezing where I live now, but even when I lived further N in the USA where that is the norm, I never warmed up my car.

The 4.3fd doesn't help. The best tank I have managed was cruise locked at 110kmh for most of the tank @ 32mpg. That's measuring mileage and fuel added at fill-up.

When I park the car in the garage and car shuffle I can set off right away without issue. it's when it sits in the driveway in temperatures -10c and below. Once it gets to -15c the clutch pedal is spongy on startup and takes 2-3 minutes idling to feel normal. it doesn't shift smoothy in those conditions until the fluid warms up.

FR-S2GT86 03-19-2021 12:13 PM

Let’s discuss the other issue that was mentioned. A few people said that the hissing was normal, and it usually is in most circumstances.

We know the hissing noise is caused by a pressure differential between the fuel tank and atmosphere. When one unscrews the cap, the two pressures equalize, and if air is sucking INTO the tank when you unscrew the cap, THAT would be considered normal.

However, if pressurized fuel vapors are escaping OUT of the tank during pressure equalization, and THAT is what’s causing the hissing noise, then you have a problem with your emissions control system.

Ernest72 03-19-2021 12:17 PM

On my AT, I get 33 with plenty of highway commuting. If I use it to do some spirited runs it dips to 30 and once 28. Never seen 22.

bcj 03-19-2021 12:46 PM

Are those Imperial liters?

extrashaky 03-19-2021 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by yooooooo (Post 3414984)
Hey guys so I recently bought a 2019 Toyota 86 GTS used from a dealer. I drive pretty well by always shifting below 3k and coasting whenever I can. However the gauge shows that I do 10.5L/100km. I drive half suburban and highway. Also when I unscrew the gas cap it makes a hissing noise? Is this normal?

Stock tires?

Tires make a difference. I made an extreme change from the stock tires to sticky summer tires on 18x9.5 rims and immediately lost almost 20% off my fuel economy.

HKz 03-19-2021 01:41 PM

if you're driving a stick, low 20s is very normal if you are hooning around in the city. On average, I usually get about 23 mpg but I find that it pretty easy to achieve 30+ mpg if you are driving on the highway. Just the other day I drove out to a casino a couple hours away and when I checked my average after I got home it displayed 32 mpg (reset before the trip ofc). The best MPGs I got was when I had an automatic FRS though, it was pretty hard to dip below 25 mpgs even though I was usually in M mode lol

Decep 03-19-2021 02:23 PM

i dont think i've ever gotten below 24 mpg, i average 26mpg. Before the supercharger and before i switched out the prius tires it was an easy 30mpg cruising at 80 mph. 30 minute commute, about 10-15 minutes of it being city, the rest highway.

Dadhawk 03-19-2021 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Decep (Post 3415085)
i dont think i've ever gotten below 24 mpg, i average 26mpg. Before the supercharger and before i switched out the prius tires it was an easy 30mpg cruising at 80 mph. 30 minute commute, about 10-15 minutes of it being city, the rest highway.

In 527 measurements (almost all near full tanks) my lowest has been 27.6MPG which included a couple of hours in a stop and go traffic jam due to a highway accident on a trip.

My best has been 40.51MPG which was on a roadtrip where I filled up right at the highway, drove 319 miles nonstop and filled up as soon as I got off the highway. At that rate, I could have gone another 200 miles before needing to fill up.


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