sporty sedans?
 

Just recently had a baby so need a usable back seat and 4 doors. Will probably keep the frs around for fun. I'm not really into SUVs, so looking for suggestions on sporty sedans, something fun to drive with some style and a little more upscale. If money were no object, I'd love something like a benz gt 63 amg or a bmw m8 gran coupe. thats the style of car i'd like to drive, but yeah, money. i can prob do up to 50k range or so. Nothing boy-racer, no civics.

Some of the cars i've considered:
-bmw 3 series, seems to be the standard for this type of car, but they seem like a dime a dozen.
-audi 4/5/6, never really been into audi for some reason, but open to checking them out
-benz. really like the styling and interior of the cla amg 35, but not sure i wanna pay 50k+ for a 2.0 4cyl turbo, even if it makes 300hp. also built on the lower end fwd platform. regular c-class doesn't do it for me, just not an eye-pleasing shape imo.
-lexus is350 - or wait for is500?
-kia stinger?
-trd camry lols
-buy used m3? maintenance costs esp at higher mileage?
-buy a cheap used corolla, sell frs, buy new cayman 4.0. :thumbup:

any input appreciated.

WRX?

Can you wait for the GR Corolla?

Used Lexus ISF

Cadillac CTS-V Gen2 or Gen3 fall within your range (well the GEN3 did six months ago, now they've gone up to $60K or more). If you want to go full family mode, a Cadillac CTS-V Wagon which you can get with a 5-speed but you'll pay dearly for it. The AT CTS-V wagons are more reasonable and fall into your price range.

Sedan?

Sporty?


Yeah, naw.


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The TRD Camry is not a bad choice.

Also throw in the Genesis G70. I test drove a manual one and it was really nice driving. Lower trims new or higher trims used should be in your budget.

LS430Older Ls430 that Speed Academy is puting a terminator supercharger on to the V8!

if you're gonna keep your 86 as a fun car, why be redundant and get another "fun" car?
Just get something focused on being roomy and comfy that your fam/friends can relax in and is easy to manage a car seat with...not like you're gonna be doing donuts and drifts with your baby in the car. when they're big enough, the twins are the perfect fun car to drive with your kid.

the Corolla + Cayman 4.0 (or keep the 86, how much more fun is a Cayman really worth over the twins) seems like the most reasonable choice of the list..

Yep, it's more than the sum of it's parts. I went shopping for a leftover 86 when the $3K cash back was running, saw a '21 TRD Camry, test drove and it's in the garage. For well under $30K OTD (no sales tax here), cheap insurance, one of the last V6 midsize cars (and the iconic engine is used throughout the Lexus lineup), runs fine on regular gas, is enjoyable to drive and makes for a fun DD. Like my FR-S, I take the long, scenic way home on mountain roads most every time.

My '21 has useful updates like BSM, RCTA, heated mirrors, JBL system, floating large touchscreen, summer tires (RE-050's 96Y) on unique lighter, wider wheels, the body kit, lower firmer bespoke suspension, firmer big brake kit pedal, TRD exhaust, and the many custom touches in and out. Okay, maybe not the spoiler, but the splitter, skirts and diffuser make up for it and Toyota says it adds downforce.

What I don't like, besides fake vents, is the 8A/T that gear hunts in Normal mode and in Manual Sport mode won't always gear hold though the paddles are fun and Sport makes a difference in throttle response and steering feel. Maybe a TSB will happen but I won't be tracking it so adapted to minimize the quirks. It needs an LSD and that's in the works.

Plus my wife can drive it if desired. She hated the FR-S, didn't feel safe, sat too low (though the TRD Camry is about the same), and doesn't care to drive M/T's any longer.

BTW, I used to live on Water St. in Stonington and miss that area for the cycling, sailing, flying scene, interesting people, beaches of Watch Hill, and great seafood.

One like mine, Wind Chill Pearl, 1 of 500 in that color I'm told by TMNA. This is the last year of production and the dealer tells me they sell quickly. I'm surprised it gets so much favorable attention given its humble bones.

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Giulia

I used to do donuts with my kids in the car all the time, they loved it. It's not like those are really dangerous, unless you are doing them in the middle of the road, or trying to test your precision driving between two concrete walls.

but sounds like we're talking about a newborn here lol. I've done plenty of donuts and drifts with my boy after he was old enough to appreciate them but this was certainly long after he was a toddler :D