Originally Posted by spike021 (Post 3419262)

Five friends and my sister got it this week, no reactions.

Yes, thanks.

I mean come on, we can play the same game on both sides here.

There's always going to be a margin of error.

Were those negative reactions due to undiagnosed allergies? If so, then if they'd have known about them then they wouldn't have gotten the vaccine and had those reactions. Which is actually what is recommended. They say if you know you have had allergic reactions to medicines/vaccines to wait....

Originally Posted by TommyW (Post 3419256)

3 friends got jabs this week. All had negative reactions. One a really bad one. No thanks.

Originally Posted by TommyW (Post 3419256)

3 friends got jabs this week. All had negative reactions. One a really bad one. No thanks.

Originally Posted by TommyW (Post 3419263)

You do you. No thanks. I'll let my very capable body fight things off. If the jab gives you security then more power to you it's just not my deal

Originally Posted by spike021 (Post 3419270)

You’ve been around this thread often. I know you’ve seen the stories in here of people who are extremely athletic and still had trouble fighting it.

Also, for the millionth time a huge chunk of this isnt about whether we can fight it off, but who we’re trying to protect who aren’t capable of fighting it off.

Which again brings back your obvious stance, which is that you clearly don’t give two shits about ordinary people.

Originally Posted by p1l0t (Post 3419264)

So now that we have a vaccine and everything is going back to normal what do you think the next big thing is going to be?

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Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 3419272)

That's a selfless act. Remember, here in America we chant about protecting others. But in reality, it's always about ME! ME! ME! ME!

Originally Posted by TommyW (Post 3419277)

No, it's about thinking rationally. You like the vaccine and think it works then good for you. Take it.

Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 3419278)

lol you want to give me a lecture on rational thinking? :bellyroll:
cool story bro.

Originally Posted by TommyW (Post 3419279)

Have fun... bro.

Originally Posted by Opie (Post 3418512)

And one thing about individual freedoms, they are up to the individual. You want to not wear a mask, lick your hands, and catch this virus you are free to do so. You want to quarantine in your house until it's gone, sure you can. Most of us fall somewhere in the middle. And BTW, New Zealand is an island, pretty easy to stop people from coming in or out, the US, not so much...look at the border...

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3419275)

Pandemic-wise? The flu. We are due for another Spanish Flu level strain. Typically every decade there is a new epidemic and every hundred years a new pandemic, or something like that. Antibiotic resistant superbugs are also up there for potentially taking out a lot of people, but typically respiratory diseases are higher than such opportunistic organisms like MRSA.



Population killers? Wars for resources and then famine.



In my lifetime (I’m 39), the effects of our pollution, harvesting, destruction, etc is going to lead to weather changes, mass migration, economic disparity, famine and the depletion of natural resources, economic instability, etc. We are in the middle of a mass extinction event that we are causing, and we will eventually be the ones to go. Remember the movie Elysium? The rich will move to Mars while we destroy each other and the planet.

Originally Posted by TommyW (Post 3419263)

You do you. No thanks. I'll let my very capable body fight things off. If the jab gives you security then more power to you it's just not my deal