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Irace86.2.0 01-29-2021 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Impureclient (Post 3402970)
Listen to this white supremacist(Bitchute is only hate speech and white supremacists) talk about the vaccine killing people:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/8lGVJz72znR7/

You know, you can probably find videos on PornHub that aren't porn. I'm suspicious this video doesn't also fall into the crazy, anti-vax category, but I'll check it out...

Kind of lost me right away with, "...from a medical expert...a CNA," and then later says he is not an expert. He is just a CNA in a nursing home. He is saying he walks into rooms and people are just dead? Do they go to the hospital? Are they just pronouncing them there? He doesn't see their autopsies. He doesn't see their lab work, EKGs, X-rays, CTs or anything when they go to the ER. How does he know what killed them? The place is saying it is a super spreading event, aka people are coming back COVID+. Well, they only received one dose, and it takes a while to develop immunity, and it takes two doses to be robust.

Then the guy seems to not understand how a super spreading event can happen, which is a little confusing from the perspective of a healhcare professional, and as someone who has lived this for the last year, unless he has had his head in the sand. We have had several spreading events in our hospital. There have been hundreds if not thousands or tens of thousands of examples of spreading events. He appears to be in denial.

The whole country is seeing a seasonal surge. Some places didn't see anything until this time of year. Most of the midwest didn't see much of the virus until the fall surge for them. Every area is hitting their surge at different times. He just doesn't understand that now is when their area is getting a surge. It isn't the vaccine.

I'm scientific in my rational, so I can't dismiss the possibility that there could be something, but I really don't think that is the case. We know people will have reactions. I had my reaction with a 101 fever. For the elderly, that fever could be worse for them. An elderly person gets a UTI, and they often get severely weak and altered. Sudden death is just not consistent with a fever from a vaccine. We haven't seen anyone in the ER coming in sick. We haven't seen anyone who is dying.

Then he talks about how could we have a vaccine so fast for COVID, but we do not have a vaccine for HIV or for Hepatitis B, but we have a vaccine in trials for HIV, and we have a vaccine for Hepatitis B. The timeline is not fast. We have already talked about it in this thread. We have compared it to other viruses and other timelines. It isn't fast when you adjust for money, resources and man-hours invested in this vaccine versus the other viruses. It isn't an apples to apples comparison by huge metrics.

Then he claims that other nurses and healthcare professionals are saying the same thing as him and seeing it the same way as him. Nope. Here we go with a global conspiracy.

Finally, where are the websites where he is getting his information? Health Impact News. That kind of says a lot right there. He says he is not anti-vax, but I question the sincerity there.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/health-impact-news/

In some ways, his video is more of a testament to the severity and horror of this virus in the elderly. It appears like it finally hit his nursing home, and the vaccine was a little too late to make a difference. That sucks for those residents, but he is blaming the vaccine when it was the virus.

The mortality rate for COVID for 65+ is 1 out of 184. Again, 1 out of every 184 people over 65 has died so far from COVID, but yeah, the big concern is the vaccine with the anaphylactic rate as 1 in a million (which isn't deaths), but this guys is saying the sudden death rate is really high, yet no one is talking about it. Yeahhhhhh, that just doesn't add up. He is recommending elderly people, and others, to not take a vaccine when the death rate is that high, which is most likely an underestimate. That is wack. Even if there was a death rate of one in a million for taking the vaccine then take the vaccine if your odds of dying from COVID is 1 in 184.

Clipdat 01-29-2021 03:45 AM

Well said.

Captain Snooze 01-29-2021 07:41 AM

This might have been discussed earlier (and I had made mention of it) but here is a popular press explanation.

How COVID-19 vaccines were developed in record time, without compromising safety

Irace86.2.0 01-29-2021 02:33 PM

Anybody see this article this morning? It gives credence to the idea that we have been severely underreporting COVID deaths like some of us, including me, have been saying:

https://nypost.com/2021/01/29/doj-wi...sing-homes-wh/

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The state attorney general reviewed data from 62 nursing homes and found that 1,914 residents died from COVID-19 — 56 percent more than the 1,229 reported by the state.

The data suggest New York’s nursing-home death toll could be more than 13,000. The official state tally is 8,711 and doesn’t count patients transported to a hospital before their deaths.

Dadhawk 01-29-2021 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3403062)
Anybody see this article this morning? It gives credence to the idea that we have been severely underreporting COVID deaths like some of us, including me, have been saying:

Not this article in particular but it's floating all over the news sites for obvious reasons.

JD001 01-29-2021 05:06 PM

We have a vaccine overload in the UK. Another 2 vaccines on their way.. are we gaining an upper hand?? Feels like it..

Ultramaroon 01-29-2021 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Clipdat (Post 3402973)
You've met my wife?!

Her bell curves don't overlap either.

Irace86.2.0 01-30-2021 02:11 PM

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...by-22-year-old

In Philadelphia, A Scandal Erupts Over Vaccination Startup Led By 22-Year-Old

soundman98 01-30-2021 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3403231)
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...by-22-year-old

In Philadelphia, A Scandal Erupts Over Vaccination Startup Led By 22-Year-Old

bbbut, elon did it to the car industry, why can't i ignore every medical rule on record and #disrupt the medical industry the same way?

i'm not always opposed to change. the medical industry has a lot of things that from the outside seem convoluted one way or another.

but change without the understanding of why the rules were put into place in the first place is just introducing chaos for one's own ignorant benefit.

why? 01-30-2021 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Impureclient (Post 3402970)
Listen to this white supremacist(Bitchute is only hate speech and white supremacists) talk about the vaccine killing people:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/8lGVJz72znR7/

This sentence makes you sound a like a person 90% of the entire human race would never ever want to have anything to do with.

At this point youtube and social media is banning anyone to the right of Chairman Mao. Funny how actual white supremacists are socialists.

Impureclient 01-30-2021 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by why? (Post 3403267)
This sentence makes you sound a like a person 90% of the entire human race would never ever want to have anything to do with.

At this point youtube and social media is banning anyone to the right of Chairman Mao. Funny how actual white supremacists are socialists.

I was just being facetious because of exactly what you said is happening and Bitchute is actually allowing all the censored content creators a voice.
Some people just need an anal swab in here. Not to worry because it will soon probably be mandatory in place of the nasal ones being done :lol:

spike021 01-30-2021 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Impureclient (Post 3403317)
I was just being facetious because of exactly what you said is happening and Bitchute is actually allowing all the censored content creators a voice.
Some people just need an anal swab in here. Not to worry because it will soon probably be mandatory in place of the nasal ones being done :lol:

Anal swab for giving a shit that the same platform that allows for white supremacy / anti-Semitic is hosting unverified, conspiracy claims about COVID?

The last time people took a platform like that seriously it resulted in millions of deaths and maiming/dehumanization of innocent people, including relatives of mine.

I think someone here needs to re-examine their priorities.

Impureclient 01-30-2021 10:05 PM

Godwin's law lol

Impureclient 01-30-2021 10:19 PM

Maybe I'm wrong, Youtube is allowing this one guy who said these quotes below to have a voice on there. I guess they'll be kicking him off soon and Bitchute will be his only platform....
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Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point. We have got to make some move on this.
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poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids
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Unlike the African-American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly diverse attitudes about different things.
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In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.
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You got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man.
:laughabove: That guy sounds like he needs a deep anal swab.


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