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Spuds 07-29-2021 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2 (Post 3452759)
Fwiw I'm pro vaccine and have been immunized but I'm skeptical of the recent numbers being reported. The numbers shown by the wapo are positive test results not necessarily positive cases. They're also including presumptive positive results whatever that means. All political bullshit imo designed to strengthen the fear and further divide the country.

So that's not necessarily politically motivated. There might be a privacy/bureaucratic problem where associating a test result to a person is problematic for some reason. Basically, in order to count some item to produce the aggregated numbers, you have to make all individual items available for counting. It's a lot easier to provide test results without PII associated to it than it is to provide the list of people that tested positive. PII is like handling bureaucratic unexploded ordinance. Nobody really wants to touch it because then you have privacy lawsuits and/or a possible data breach.

I also remember that, at least where I live, there were questions on whether you had taken a covid test before. Iirc there was some restriction on getting tested multiple times if you tested positive previously.

I recommend doing a bit of research into what the presumptive results are if it concerns you. It sure beats making a fool of yourself on the internet complaining about something in the same post where you admit you don't actually know what it is lol. Let us know what you find.

Tcoat 07-29-2021 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 3452368)
Guess Humfrz looks just like I imagined :lol:

https://i.imgflip.com/3b3juv.jpg

Lantanafrs2 07-29-2021 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3452769)
So that's not necessarily politically motivated. There might be a privacy/bureaucratic problem where associating a test result to a person is problematic for some reason. Basically, in order to count some item to produce the aggregated numbers, you have to make all individual items available for counting. It's a lot easier to provide test results without PII associated to it than it is to provide the list of people that tested positive. PII is like handling bureaucratic unexploded ordinance. Nobody really wants to touch it because then you have privacy lawsuits and/or a possible data breach.

I also remember that, at least where I live, there were questions on whether you had taken a covid test before. Iirc there was some restriction on getting tested multiple times if you tested positive previously.

I recommend doing a bit of research into what the presumptive results are if it concerns you. It sure beats making a fool of yourself on the internet complaining about something in the same post where you admit you don't actually know what it is lol. Let us know what you find.

I'll complain about whatever the fuck I want. In ones face or on a forum. Presumptive positive has more than one meaning. How about presumptive negative? That wont feed the circle jerks of paranoia.

Atmo 07-29-2021 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3452770)

"I told you to stay off my grass"

Spuds 07-29-2021 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2 (Post 3452772)
I'll complain about whatever the fuck I want. In ones face or on a forum. Presumptive positive has more than one meaning. How about presumptive negative? That wont feed the circle jerks of paranoia.

You are right. You can and do complain about anything you want. But you still look like a fool when 5 minutes of internet searching answers your question.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...nfections.html

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A presumptive positive result is when a patient has tested positive by a public health laboratory, but results are pending confirmation at CDC. For public health purposes, a presumptive positive result using the CDC test is treated as a positive.
So these are people who have tested positive, and reported before the secondary confirmation by the cdc. The reason for this is to get information into yours and officials hands quicker to better judge the current situation.

weederr33 07-29-2021 12:31 PM

So... nose was a little clogged up and ended up sleeping with my mouth open a few nights ago. Dried up and scratchy throat the next day. Last night began feeling warm and iffy, so I went to bed by 8pm. Woke up, felt fine, but started feeling fatigued again. Not saying it's COVID, but since I work in an industry that's notorious for it spreading, I may get tested tomorrow.

spike021 07-29-2021 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 3452792)
So... nose was a little clogged up and ended up sleeping with my mouth open a few nights ago. Dried up and scratchy throat the next day. Last night began feeling warm and iffy, so I went to bed by 8pm. Woke up, felt fine, but started feeling fatigued again. Not saying it's COVID, but since I work in an industry that's notorious for it spreading, I may get tested tomorrow.

Either way, hope you feel better soon!

Atmo 07-29-2021 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 3452792)
So... nose was a little clogged up and ended up sleeping with my mouth open a few nights ago. Dried up and scratchy throat the next day. Last night began feeling warm and iffy, so I went to bed by 8pm. Woke up, felt fine, but started feeling fatigued again. Not saying it's COVID, but since I work in an industry that's notorious for it spreading, I may get tested tomorrow.

If you haven't been tested before, the newest method is a breeze although the nurse arriving with a swab in a biohazard suit is a little intimidating but better than last year when they arrived with a borescope. Results arrive in 10 minutes and off you go.

Hope you're feeling better soon. Chicken soup? Humfrz says it works.

weederr33 07-29-2021 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Atmo (Post 3452820)
If you haven't been tested before, the newest method is a breeze although the nurse arriving with a swab in a biohazard suit is a little intimidating but better than last year when they arrived with a borescope. Results arrive in 10 minutes and off you go.

Hope you're feeling better soon. Chicken soup? Humfrz says it works.

Well I don't have any tail tale signs of COVID and after my nap I'm fine just tired. Still I'll probably do it tomorrow.

EAGLE5 07-29-2021 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2 (Post 3452768)
If hospitalizations kept pace with positive test results Florida would be a warzone. My point is that the numbers should represent positive cases only, not multiple results for one person or presumptive positives.

Florida ICUs ARE war zones. https://www.local10.com/news/local/2...trends-worsen/

Dr. David De La Zerda, the ICU director at Jackson Memorial Hospital, says he’s seeing patients regretting not getting vaccinated. The majority that they are treating right now are between the ages of 25 and 45.

“Most of them are saying, ‘Why didn’t I get vaccinated?” he said. “Before we admit them to the ICU, we see them on the floor. That’s the No. 1 comment. ‘I am so so ashamed I didn’t get [the vaccine] before and it’s too late.’”

Jackson Memorial is short on beds and nurses and looking to add 50 ICU beds in the next week. At this point, that hospital is 80% full, including non-COVID patients.

JD001 07-29-2021 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 3452792)
So... nose was a little clogged up and ended up sleeping with my mouth open a few nights ago. Dried up and scratchy throat the next day. Last night began feeling warm and iffy, so I went to bed by 8pm. Woke up, felt fine, but started feeling fatigued again. Not saying it's COVID, but since I work in an industry that's notorious for it spreading, I may get tested tomorrow.

So, tell us how you managed to keep your mouth open when sleeping?

weederr33 07-29-2021 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 3452842)
So, tell us how you managed to keep your mouth open when sleeping?

Not sure lol. I've had it happen in before and the dry throat always turns into a sore throat. Slept like a rock though.

spike021 07-29-2021 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 3452846)
Not sure lol. I've had it happen in before and the dry throat always turns into a sore throat. Slept like a rock though.

Back when I was a kid and we visited my grandparents' house, my grandma would take myself and my brother and sister out to the neighborhood pool. Sometimes she swam, but other times she would just sit at a table under an umbrella.

Well, she'd start falling asleep with her mouth gaping open and so we always joked she'd be catching some flies. :D

Capt Spaulding 07-29-2021 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 3452842)
So, tell us how you managed to keep your mouth open when sleeping?

If you have a really stuffed up nose, how else would you breathe? I've tried breathing through my ears, but I get really bad tinnitus. Not completely true, most of the tinnitus is from motorcycles and shooting.


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