Well, I remember seeing some crazy spring break BS down your way so maybe that has something to do with the increases?

As far as the individual case you are referring to, perhaps that is exactly why we still need to maintain social distancing practices after being vaccinated. This is going to be a whack-a-mole for a while since folks can't seem to keep their infections to themselves.

I reported that post but apparently the moderators can't be bothered.

You reported me or what he said?

Wife got the second Moderna shot and has 102 temp that was subdued with Tylenol and now she is fine. Minor malaise.

I'd be happy to give you yearly updates on how I'm feeling.

Is there anything else you wanted to know while you're camped out in this thread? Maybe my erectile health or sperm count? PM me, babe! :wub:

The inappropriate post saying wishing people dead.

My postal code has been been declared a hot spot so they will be vaccinating 45 and up. Guess I'll be spending all day today online trying to book an appointment.

COVID deniers, maskholes, and anti-vaxxers are ultimately a self-limiting problem. By their actions, they will take themselves out of the gene pool, and will not survive to reproduce.

That's fine with me. Those mindsets often howl about 'personal choice'. I think it's perfectly OK if they choose to preferentially remove themselves from the planet.

The virus does not give a pass to the stupid. The virus is completely equal opportunity and infects deniers and believers totally equitably. Of all the many interventions that have been tried against SARS-CoV-2, denial has not been shown to be effective.

What most definitely is not fine is the risk they place on the rest of us. Everyone has the right to expect to be reasonably safe in going about their lives. It's not OK to put other people unwillingly at undue risk when they go to supermarkets, pharmacies, and other places to live their lives just because someone decides to turn themselves into carriers of contagion by not taking reasonable, basic safety precautions.

Whether someone wants to believe it or not, the SARS-CoV-2 virus is spread by people. The reservoir is us. The home of the virus is not the air, soil, or water. It's inside us. That's the simple fact, and overrides any ridiculous howling about 'personal choice' and 'rights'.

In the past, in areas with greater awareness, knowledge, or enlightenment, people with typhoid, malaria, smallpox, or plague were quarantined or isolated to protect others. It's basic public health, decency, and respect for other people's lives.

There have always been idiots of all flavors. Even a century ago there were the 'Mask Slackers' in the 1918-1919 flu pandemic, and called masks muzzles, germ shields and dirt traps. Then, as now, masks worked to help slow the spread of disease.

Deniers, maskholes, and anti-vaxxers scream about their 'rights'. Yes, they have rights, as does every person. But their 'rights' do not include the right to infect other people with a potentially lethal virus. Other people's right to live supersedes the right to be stupid.

There is a certain immorality about not taking the necessary precautions to protect your fellow human being.

A major problem we're confronting is natural selection. We're running a huge biology experiment in which we're all lab rats. Every new infection offers an opportunity for the virus to mutate. Some mutations are cul de sacs - evolutionary dead ends for the virus. Others allow the virus to become more virulent or more deadly or more resistant to the vaccine. Our behavior plays a major role in this process. Maskholes, deniers, and antivaxers are playing a game that benefits the virus.

We're several weeks past the beginning of spring break. Loads of the impatient and dimwitted descended on beaches and elsewhere and created loads of opportunities for virus infection and mutation. And guess what? Infection numbers are rising again. The increase was completely predictable. We know what it takes to beat this thing or at least fight it to a draw. But too may of us are emotionally or intellectually incapable of doing what is best for us personally or for our fellows and society as a whole.

Could say the same thing about someone who wants to push me into living in a society that requires bi-annual injections just be allowed outside.

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I think that is where my skepticism begins and I smell fear mongering a brew. But I also have a hard time finding research that actually supports this because there's still so little about the long-term effects of just the first dose of vaccine. :bonk:

I think being allowed inside is the real problem. I mean, you already have to put on pants, shoes, and a shirt to go into a business... :iono:

But that's not what anyone is tryng to do, now is it? As I requested of Opie, show me a citation to some credible source that supports your fear. Then, let's discuss it.

Guess what?
Go on ....

Society isn't all about you.