Meh. What obviously isn't obvious is that not everybody is overwhelmed by a 15% increase. It is cool and all but this constantly repeated "everybody will want it" and "everybody needs more power" is tiresome.

"Still got these holder things for the seat belts".

I was really hoping that was something they would have improved on. Mine really never have worked more than about a week before they unsnap.

One of those rare moments when the next car does look like a natural progress from the current one. I like it. 🙂

Did they mention wheel pattern? Same as first gen or something different?

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100%.

So I owned a 2014 Monogram, a unicorn example at that too, and I sold it within a few months. I went from a C5Z to that car during a time I guess you could call my quarter life crisis, lol. I ultimately sold the car not because of my referencing to the C5Z, but rather a 2006 Civic Si. My brother was going overseas, so he left me his Civic to take care of while he was gone, so I had both cars side by side, for the entire time I owned it. I loved the FRS in every facet, but compared to the K20, it just highlighted what I didn't like about the FA20. The broader torque curve, linear power, and just the way it delivers it, just felt like the engine that should have been in the FRS. This car was strictly a weekend car (if it was to serve DD duties, I would've kept it) and that's why I ultimately sold it.

For me, it's not ultimately about the power, 60 times, etc, but those numbers can tell alot about how a car should feel. Why this engine is exciting me is that it sounds like it's finally going to have the engine I wanted.

The ND2 was also a revelation for me as well, for all intents and purposes there wasnt much of a change except the motor being able to rev out longer and therefore build more power. The bigger point is that it felt like an engine that matches a sportscar, and less like a rental car engine in a sportscar. The character matches, and from all accounts it looks like this engine will have that character. It went from a car that I was meh about to a car that I was sitting at a dealer desk about to buy (we couldn't reconcile $500 and someone else bought the car while I was playing hardball).

And yes, you can get a UEL and OFT for the current car and pretty much get an engine similar to a K20... but IF the FA24 is already good, then in theory a UEL and OFT will be even better!

But fortunately for you first gen owners, the new engine isn't a quantum leap like going from a 2011 to 2012 Mustang GT, this is more like a 2017 to 2018 Mustang GT, which is understandable why alot of current owners won't move up, err laterally. You like the car, you have the car, money spent, known quantity, no need to change it up. For us on the sideline on the fence, this is the sort of stuff that draws me back. I've already done a few higher hp cars, learned it's not for me in totality. I just wanted Subaru to do to these cars what Mazda did to the ND2, and it sounds like they did.

So I think everyone is happy, existing owners were not obsoleted, and those like me who just were wishing for a little more, get what they want.

Yeah, they did unsnap pretty easy, I just learned to pull the seatbelt more upwards than downwards which would "slice" it to unsnap. But of course my passengers didn't realize that, and my OCD ass had to go back every time and snap it back in place, lol.

But just be happy it has it, some cars don't and reaching back sometimes is an absolute pain. Or some cars over think (BMW), and engineer a really elegant solution that will surely malfunction costing you a ton to get repaired.

Still up in the air, but some members have graphically extrapolated that it's 5x100.

I thought I heard in one of the videos that it’s a “modified” version of Subaru’s new global platform. Not exactly sure what that means. But it sounds like it’s no longer on a modified Impreza platform. Maybe they frankensteined it all together?!


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This could be a good thing honestly [emoji28]


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I’ve always been a sucker for the analog speedometer that begins further to the right than most gauges. The needle I mean. [emoji3] I only ever look at the digital speed display in the tach though. I will miss that for sure. It just works and is easy to read. I think I will like a digital tach, especially in this configuration.


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Its weird, the more I see it the more it grows on me. For first gen owners not worth the switch but on face value I think its going to tick more of the boxes as a true back to basics Manual sports car with just the right touches of modern interior. No extra safety tech which is nice unlike other manufactures.

I wondered if anyone else was bothered by the plate mounting spot, because I am also [emoji28] We are supposed to have front plates in Texas but it’s never enforced. I was so happy to see that holes weren’t drilled in the front bumper when I got my car. [emoji23] Adding a mounting spot for a plate is even worse than drilled holes. [emoji19]


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Other way around. They took the existing bespoke chassis and added some elements of the Global Platform. The say that in the literature.
It never was on a modified Impreza platform. It was a bespoke platform BASED on the Impreza. One of the early test mules was built on a Impreza chassis but they didn't stick with that.

If you look close that spot is just screwed on. Much like the mounting plate on the current one I would expect it will come separate and be dealer installed if needed.