Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 3437540)

This is no longer limited to one OEM or the other though, it pretty much describes the entire EV market, and a lot of other mass markets vehicles regardless of make/model. Heck, even the new 86 is barely distinguishable from the 400Z, IMO.

Originally Posted by beltax90 (Post 3437566)

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Originally Posted by beltax90 (Post 3437566)

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Originally Posted by DarkSideFRS (Post 3437660)

That looks retarded :barf:

Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 3437710)

Wow, people in a large venue. I really miss that.

And some not wearing masks too. I wonder if they were required to prove full vaccination upon entry. Otherwise, if it's the honor system I don't think they'll ever allow that here.

Anyway, I like all the changes that I see. People complain about the side vent but if you are an STI owner like myself then you won't mind that detail. Also, I like that there is a deeper looking rocker panel as well. My 1st generation has a 5: AD body kit which was taken from the final concept 86. The rockers are more deeply sculpted which I prefer plus it is added protection from cones for people doing autocross.
The seats on gen 2 look good and substantial as well. Overall, I'd say they have achieved their goal if providing more car was the intention.
The pandemic might slow the initial sales, but rather than a typical diminishing sales number each subsequent year, I predict there will be growth from 1st to 2nd or possibly 3rd year depending on overall economimic recovery. I'd jump on it if I didn't have so much sunk in my gen 1, but I suppose it will be a classic eventually. That is unless they release a special edition gen 2 with a supercharger and Ohlins, which will be followed shortly thereafter by a giant meteor impacting the Earth.

Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 3437710)

Anyway, I like all the changes that I see.

Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 3437712)

I like the 5:AD on Gen1 and actually thought about getting it, but it doesn't look anything like the "wings" they've added to GEN2. I think it would have helped if it flowed better into the the rear quarter panel, maybe into a wheel vent.

I'm sure they will sell every one they build, it just won't be one to me. I was really hoping we would have heard about the return of the MR2 by now, and whether it was to be an EV or hybrid. With my 86 approaching 200K miles in the next few months, it's time to start planning the shopping list. At this point I'll be looking elsewhere.

Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 3437724)

What's your short list???

Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 3437727)

It's evolving, all over the place, and really isn't a short list.

Primarily at this point I'm waiting to see if any of the "low roof" EV options everyone keeps promising come to fruition in the next 12 to 36 months. I'm also looking at this from the prospective of it being a car I may keep into retirement.

Some of it will also depend on whether I replace the 86 or our Suburban first, both of which have almost the same number of miles on them and neither have been very problematic to this point (I'd drive either from Georgia to Oregon today with no concern).

I want to see what the Silverado and Tahoe EVs look like but those are a couple of years out. The Ford Lightning doesn't have the range I would want in an EV, and well, its a Ford.

Also, with used car prices jacked way up, some of the options on my list are stupid money (last gen CTS-V for example, which are selling right now for almost the price they were when new).

Originally Posted by Blighty (Post 3437753)

What do you want to use the car for? Since you seem pretty intent on going EV then understand that there will be substantial improvements made over the next 10 years. .