Subaru? Blueish grey or greyish blue.

I know what you're referring to and I think it was just to emphasize the dip / powerband and explain it better on camera. You can drop gears all you want but at its core the engine has the same powerband. To show that in a video while talking about it could be somewhat hard to do so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. They generally give the car positive reviews.

35lbs


Aero Package (Lip, Skirts, Spats, Under panel and the Spoiler)

Performance Package's (Larger Rotors and Calipers On All Corners.)
The 18" Enkie wheels.
The Flexible Draw Stiffener Assy.

4 added unibody chassis braces. (Firewall, rear deck, rear wheel wells.)


There might be more weight from the bushings, red interior, emblems/stickers and v-braces but that is really splitting hairs.

You may be right! But at the time it seemed like they just focused too much on that instead of also showing the other side of it.

We were referring to the 2880 lb estimate for the 2nd gen. If it is heavier than the 1st gen, I want to know where the weight went before I complain about it. Although I don't want it to weigh more, not all lbs are created equal; some weight might be a net benefit for certain buyers, while other weight is a waste. 20lbs of sound insulation for somebody that does a lot of highway would be worth it, but a competitive autocrosser will hate it. More durable CV joints will be appreciated by autocrossers, but wasted on the highway driver.

I would prefer if weight increases in certain components or structures were offset by weight reductions in others, but that strategy could lead to unacceptable cost increases. If they are targeting sub-$30k, there is a limit to what they can do. I personally would have no issue spending $2k to pull another 100lbs out of it, but I realize I'm probably in the minority.

So when the hell do we get to see this turd again!?!?

12 hours.

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/11/17/...z-live-reveal/

"What little we've heard suggests that most of the platform enhancements will come from Toyota's side of the twins' joint development program, while the powertrain will again be sourced from Subaru."

Funny, that is the opposite of what little I've heard.

with the drive-by-wire system, my car already does this with very minimal input. i blindly smash the gas pedal to the floor, let off, release the clutch, and it's magically at the right rpm!

if your cars not doing it, try being more violent about it

a little more then 9 hrs away and still no leaks :bonk:

Nothing to leak and very few people care. It’s a mild update to a car with low sales volume.

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Only a couple of hours but a leak is a leak!


https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143206

No way. That looks like a kia front end and a hyundai rear end. :barf: