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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/26/life...perts-say.html Going from ICE to EV cuts CO2 emissions about in half, from ~400 g/mile to ~200 g/mile IMO we could do more by reducing demand (see more below), but still moving from ICEs will be at least part of the answer to reduce emissions., Quote:
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There are things we could do to reduce CO2 emissions without transitioning to electric, things we should be doing anyway. 1. incentivize 4- and 3-day work weeks 2. incentivize working from home 3. require employers to pay well enough that employees can afford to live a reasonable distance from work 4. invest in public transportation etc. The MAJOR portion of "light-duty" vehicle emissions is people commuting a long way to work 5 days a week. You think those people are HAPPY doing that?! I have to do it two days a week and my impression is most are quite the opposite of happy about it. |
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So, by unit we are back to planes, trains and ships. |
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Here is a basic experiment showing CO2 trapping heat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX4eOg2LaSY We aren't eliminating CO2. The world produces CO2 and absorbs it in a balance. Volcanic ash, fires and other natural phenomenon releases CO2 and plants absorb CO2. We just want to get the CO2 back to historically normal levels that don't pose a threat, but more importantly, we want to avoid continuing to dump excess CO2. In 2019 human activity dumped an extra 43 billion metric tons of CO2 in the atmosphere that wouldn't have happened if we didn't exist. Nuclear, solar, wind, hydro, tidal, geothermal, bacteria and anything else I am missing. We will build these power plants. I'm missing what you find confusing about that? |
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In addition to increased electricity generation, now you're looking at emissions due to the production of the equipment to hold the electricity. While the claims of using sulphur and sodium are in the nascent stage, we're still dependent on countries like Myanmar and China for raw materials. And nothing has been proved yet with sulphur and sodium. In fact, the trend from EPA's website doesn't look bad at all. Since around 2005 it has been on a decline. |
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That graph has been compromised by cherry picking the relative dates for misdirection.
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You forgot to calculate a third component in that comparison. Emissions per kilogram of weight carried per kilometer. A bus or plane will have more emissions than a car, but a bus or plane also carries many passenger and carries/ships multiple pieces of luggage. A shipping container cargo ship stacked to the brim might be transporting the equivalent of 120,000 two ton cars. We know buses moving a group of people from point A to B like to the airport without stops is far more efficient than everyone driving individual cars, but it is also true that freight flying is more efficient than freight driving (see below). We obviously want to address all parts of the pie chart, but passenger vehicles should be the main focus. https://www.businessinsider.com/flyi...driving-2015-4 |
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I mean, yeah, I guess it makes perfect sense to equate the effort required to improve emissions of ONE airliner, to ONE car?! Also, planes are already reasonably efficient as they can reasonably get as far as CO2 emissions per person-miles traveled. While in the US most people are driving about the LEAST efficient vehicles they can (trucks/SUVs). To make it simple, US CO2 emissions are ~5 million kilotons/year. Planes/trains/boats at 12% of that is 0.6 million kilotons/year Light-duty vehicles at 57% of that is 2.85 million kilotons/year. If you cut planes/trains/boats CO2 emissions *to zero*, that's a reduction of 0.6 million kilotons/year. You'd get the same reduction if you cut light-duty vehicle emissions by only 21%! |
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https://www.climate.gov/sites/defaul...?itok=W57BtpJB https://www.climate.gov/news-feature...carbon-dioxide We need to do more to further reduce our CO2 emissions, we are already recklessly experimenting with the environment and every year CO2 levels rise we are more and more risking the future. |
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Sodium sulfur batteries aren't new. The tech to make them viable for car applications is new along with lithium sulfur batteries, and we should see them replacing lithium ion very quickly, as battery manufactures adjust their production lines in years and not decades, so I don't know how much you want to argue on the pitfalls of lithium ion production. https://energystorage.org/why-energy...nas-batteries/ Musk mentioned building a lithium mine in Nevada, but hasn't moved on it probably because he was riding out the pandemic and the future of the company like most, and because chip shortages may have meant a drop in lithium demand, but lithium demand has only skyrocketed prompting him to revisit mining lithium in Nevada, so that could happen. Again, movements will likely be happening in years and not decades, so I don't see any fault in the long term strategy of moving to BEVs and attaining energy independence, while reducing greenhouse gas emissions. https://electrek.co/2022/04/11/tesla...s-price-surge/ The trend is going down, but that is almost entirely from the energy sector moving to renewables, and it is only a twelve year trend, so we need to not be overly optimistic, especially when we are still dumping six billion metric tons of CO2 in the air each year. https://www.epa.gov/system/files/ima..._1990-2020.jpg |
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