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NaturallyAspirated 08-16-2020 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CBR600RR (Post 3358726)
anyone else notice a lot less wheel gap? and better wheel offset?

It looks like it's using the same 18" GR Yaris wheels which might have something to do with filling the wheel gap. Agreed about the wheel offset though. I've been trying to find more info on these wheels, but other than being 18", forged, and using 225/40/18 tires, there's not much more info out there. I'm going to speculate they're at least 18x7.5 or 18x8.0 based on the tire width. The offset is probably low-ish considering the wide fenders found on the GR Yaris.

Lantanafrs2 08-16-2020 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by nikitopo (Post 3358750)
Maybe they are testing the better torque curve of the larger displacement engine.

It would take more than a better torque curve to run with that mustang lol

Yoshoobaroo 08-16-2020 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2 (Post 3358793)
It would take more than a better torque curve to run with that mustang lol


Well it may be getting close cause they wouldn’t bother to benchmark against it if it wasn’t close.

On PS4s the 86 will murder the stang in the corners. The following is speculation but I bet with a 30 lbf*ft bump it gets reeeaaaal close.

HKz 08-16-2020 06:16 PM

How are people seeing a Hyundai..? Folks love to be design critics on the interwebz when they can't even dress themselves properly...it IS pretty much the same exact profile and hard points as the 86 only with smoother fenders, a sharper grill, more angular headlights/brake lights and slightly different lines. How do those changes turn the sleek and sharp looking twins into a fat Genesis Coupe or a frumpy FWD Tiburon? The new design looks very fresh and still very clean.

Don't think anyone mentioned this yet, but it appears the GR86 will now have a separate piece for the side skirt unlike the ones we have which are molded into the quarter panel. Pretty happy about this because I've always hated how the side skirts for the twins are merely stuck on the outside and make the lower half of the car look bulkier..

Yoshoobaroo 08-16-2020 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HKz (Post 3358821)
How are people seeing a Hyundai..? Folks love to be design critics on the interwebz when they can't even dress themselves properly...it IS pretty much the same exact profile and hard points as the 86 only with smoother fenders, a sharper grill, more angular headlights/brake lights and slightly different lines. How do those changes turn the sleek and sharp looking twins into a fat Genesis Coupe or a frumpy FWD Tiburon? The new design looks very fresh and still very clean.

Don't think anyone mentioned this yet, but it appears the GR86 will now have a separate piece for the side skirt unlike the ones we have which are molded into the quarter panel. Pretty happy about this because I've always hated how the side skirts for the twins are merely stuck on the outside and make the lower half of the car look bulkier..


People get hung up on details in the design. The headlight shape is vaguely reminiscent of the late tiburon headlights, I can see that. But i agree that the proportions are 100% GT86.

vh_supra26 08-16-2020 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gymratter (Post 3358229)
the bottom of the quarter window looks a little different than the current car.

https://i.imgur.com/h59l84k.jpg
https://images.hgmsites.net/hug/2012...00366512_h.jpg

Maybe it's the camo playing tricks on the eye, but it looks like the whole beltline moved up a bit. That would explain how it is now flush with the top of the fender.

brillo 08-16-2020 07:37 PM

The 4cyl stang weighs 3600ish lbs and is a low to mid 5 sec car. While I bet the stang is still faster the gap will have closed materially with the power increase give the almost 800lb weight difference. I would bet the new car is a mid to high 5 sec 0-60 now so keeping up on a track won’t be difficult.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3358810)
Well it may be getting close cause they wouldn’t bother to benchmark against it if it wasn’t close.

On PS4s the 86 will murder the stang in the corners. The following is speculation but I bet with a 30 lbf*ft bump it gets reeeaaaal close.


Irace86.2.0 08-16-2020 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3358823)
People get hung up on details in the design. The headlight shape is vaguely reminiscent of the late tiburon headlights, I can see that. But i agree that the proportions are 100% GT86.

Agreed. This platform often sees major customizations and wide body treatments that I don't really see the point in getting too hung up on the design either. It is entirely possible the gen 2 will subjectively be ugly, even with the proportions, but I doubt it. I might consider a gen 2 for a future car, but I am happy for now.

mazeroni 08-16-2020 09:31 PM

This is crude, but I tried to find an FRS picture close to the angle in the spy shot.

It's probably a little hard to see, but the green lines are the FRS and the red are the prototype. The spy shots are a bit more top down. But I lined up the wheels the best that I could and to me the window line looks the same. Everything looks the same, actually. Fender height, roof, rear of trunk, door handle placement.

If anything, the rear might be a little shorter while the front is longer. However, as mentioned, the perspective is slightly different.

http://ericmazzoni.com/wp-content/up...comparison.jpg

If someone else wants a go, here are the two images I used.

https://www.octanemotorsports.com/pu...EXD-112204.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/h59l84k.jpg

Wise 08-16-2020 10:33 PM

Those brakes don't look fundamentally that different from the ones on the current car.

Which lends credence to information suggesting the platform is staying NA.

86MLR 08-16-2020 10:50 PM

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136737

Sorry, but the last post reminded me of this thread.

Good for a laugh

Spuds 08-17-2020 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mazeroni (Post 3358886)
This is crude, but I tried to find an FRS picture close to the angle in the spy shot.

It's probably a little hard to see, but the green lines are the FRS and the red are the prototype. The spy shots are a bit more top down. But I lined up the wheels the best that I could and to me the window line looks the same. Everything looks the same, actually. Fender height, roof, rear of trunk, door handle placement.

If anything, the rear might be a little shorter while the front is longer. However, as mentioned, the perspective is slightly different.

http://ericmazzoni.com/wp-content/up...comparison.jpg

If someone else wants a go, here are the two images I used.

https://www.octanemotorsports.com/pu...EXD-112204.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/h59l84k.jpg

I think the FRS image is slightly elongated in the combined picture. The development car is turning left, which pushes the front right wheel center forward a bit due to it being offset from the strut.

boy_racer 08-17-2020 08:53 AM

The door line left of the door handle is different.It looks like it is Supra inspired.

StE92ve 08-17-2020 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vh_supra26 (Post 3358852)
Maybe it's the camo playing tricks on the eye, but it looks like the whole beltline moved up a bit. That would explain how it is now flush with the top of the fender.

It's definitely the camo since on the GR, it covers the lower window trim. As an aside, does anyone know what is the purpose of the white squares on the front and rear quarters?
https://i.imgur.com/h59l84k.jpg


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