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HotLavaJoe 08-07-2020 09:16 PM

OEM Piston Weight - Re-Balance?
 
Hi all,


I'm planning on rebuilding my 2013 FRS engine soon with all OEM parts except for pistons. I want to go with 13.5:1 compression and 87mm diameter to get a tiny bit more NA power with E85.


My question is: When I get aftermarket pistons that are a different weight from OEM (I cant find OEM piston weight info anywhere) will I have to re-balance the engine in any way?


Thanks,


Joe

Grady 08-08-2020 11:59 AM

No.

Steveiam 08-09-2020 03:46 PM

Why not swap out for stronger rods while everything's apart?

Jdmjunkie 08-09-2020 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Steveiam (Post 3356299)
Why not swap out for stronger rods while everything's apart?

Not to mention lighter for maximum revs and NA goodness!

Turdinator 08-10-2020 03:00 AM

Lighter rods don't seem to be a thing for the FA20

PulsarBeeerz 08-10-2020 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steveiam (Post 3356299)
Why not swap out for stronger rods while everything's apart?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdmjunkie (Post 3356393)
Not to mention lighter for maximum revs and NA goodness!


No need for stronger rods when NA and apart from one fella with custom Ti con rods the OEMs are plenty light.



If anything maybe make sure the current or new OEM rods are all of equal weight and balanced since the new pistons will be.

86TOYO2k17 08-10-2020 01:34 PM

Get some head work done while the heads are off. oversized valves, springs, port/polish etc... maybe even a cam. Rev her out to 7800 with the 13.5 compression, and get an ace 150 header for that top end. Maybe toss in some ITBs. you could Probably have The highest WHP non stroked NA FA20.

PulsarBeeerz 08-10-2020 01:45 PM

Just throw $15k at it. NBD

Jdmjunkie 08-10-2020 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PulsarBeeerz (Post 3356563)
Just throw $15k at it. NBD

It is only money. :iono:

NoHaveMSG 08-10-2020 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdmjunkie (Post 3356393)
Not to mention lighter for maximum revs and NA goodness!

That way the rocker arms come out at higher velocity :party0030:

86TOYO2k17 08-10-2020 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PulsarBeeerz (Post 3356563)
Just throw $15k at it. NBD

Why stop at $15k? Mortgage interest rates are at historic lows.

RayRay88 08-11-2020 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17 (Post 3356553)
Get some head work done while the heads are off. oversized valves, springs, port/polish etc... maybe even a cam. Rev her out to 7800 with the 13.5 compression, and get an ace 150 header for that top end. Maybe toss in some ITBs. you could Probably have The highest WHP non stroked NA FA20.

Probably not worth it unless you can address oiling issues. All that money just to watch a bearing spin before your first oil change.

PulsarBeeerz 08-11-2020 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayRay88 (Post 3356783)
Probably not worth it unless you can address oiling issues. All that money just to watch a bearing spin before your first oil change.


Yup the only ones that seem to have it figured out are Element Tuning and after you add up all the stuff mentioned, you are well over $15k... Smarter to wait for the KMiata K24 swap in reality.

Turdinator 08-12-2020 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by HotLavaJoe (Post 3355821)
Hi all,


I'm planning on rebuilding my 2013 FRS engine soon with all OEM parts except for pistons. I want to go with 13.5:1 compression and 87mm diameter to get a tiny bit more NA power with E85.


My question is: When I get aftermarket pistons that are a different weight from OEM (I cant find OEM piston weight info anywhere) will I have to re-balance the engine in any way?


Thanks,


Joe

If you are rebuilding it to gain performance, why not spend a little extra and get it fully balanced regardless?


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