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nikitopo 07-26-2020 02:29 AM

Toyota Dynamic Force Engine
 
This is pretty much the latest engine technology of Toyota. What would you think of a new FA24D engine with both direct and port injection (not the Subaru's Ascent FA24 variant) and the dynamic force improvements?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWHq-Qr903g

nikitopo 07-26-2020 02:45 AM

Common key technologies
 
High speed combustion:
  • Wider angle between the intake and exhaust valve
  • High efficiency intake port with laser cladded valve seat
  • High compression ratio up to 14.0:1
  • High energy ignition coil
  • Updated D-4S system
  • Multi-hole direct injector
Variable cooling system:
  • Motor driven water pump
  • Heated thermostat
Continuous variable-capacity oil pump

Mr_Eyo 07-26-2020 05:29 AM

Still has a torque dip...

why? 07-26-2020 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Eyo (Post 3352112)
Still has a torque dip...


everything is going to have a torque dip to meet insane emissions requirements.

nikitopo 07-26-2020 09:26 AM

For your information, this technology has been also used in the GR Yaris car. Not a coincidence that the above make one of the most powerful three-cylinder automobile engines ever produced.

https://www.caradvice.com.au/818502/...till-no-price/

weederr33 07-26-2020 10:43 AM

Personally, I'd rather see the corolla motor in the twins than the boxer. But that's just me longing for a proper high strung toyota motor.

why? 07-26-2020 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 3352135)
Personally, I'd rather see the corolla motor in the twins than the boxer. But that's just me longing for a proper high strung toyota motor.


You aren't the only one. I would love something that could rev past 9k and be super rev happy and fun to drive, even if it made a little less power from the factory.

weederr33 07-26-2020 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by why? (Post 3352140)
You aren't the only one. I would love something that could rev past 9k and be super rev happy and fun to drive, even if it made a little less power from the factory.

I am still a fan of the FA20 and I am fond of the boxer motor despite some naysayers. But yeah, the 2.0 toyota motor would be cool. I'm sure they could get it up to the 200hp marker. Though I think the current toyota motor is tuned for 87 octane?

Goingnowherefast 07-26-2020 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by why? (Post 3352113)
everything is going to have a torque dip to meet insane emissions requirements.

That's just demonstrably not true... There is almost no other vehicle on the US market that suffers from a "dip" in the torque curve as significant as this platform does. We need to stop making excuses for poor engine design and calibration.

For reference, here's another 2.0L engine in a 2 door sportscar (ND Miata) that directly competes with the BRZ and is price competitive...

https://i.imgur.com/bcTpFUq.jpg

Ohio Enthusiast 07-26-2020 02:21 PM

The torque dip is due to the boxer engine layout, and nobody else (almost) uses these. NA Porsches have a similar dip. Here's a dyno of a 2006 Cayman S:

https://www.dragtimes.com/images_dyn...ayman-Dyno.jpg

wbradley 07-26-2020 02:45 PM

The crickets are included as an added bonus.

Grady 07-26-2020 03:13 PM

Oh cool! Toyota is making a Vortec! Wonder where they got that idea?

nikitopo 07-26-2020 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grady (Post 3352168)
Oh cool! Toyota is making a Vortec! Wonder where they got that idea?

It looks that they are using an older idea under a new purpose, which is the high speed combustion. They say at the beginning that this is the key technology.

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airrick 07-26-2020 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 3352166)
The crickets are included as an added bonus.

the injector rattle is also a free add-on.


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