Self-driving vehicles could struggle to eliminate most crashes
 

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And a refutation.

Two articles guessing at totally different things. The IIHS is looking at immediate data and what could happen soon. The manufacturers are putting as positive a spin as possible on what could happen at some point in the future.

That point in the future is far closer than some people think.
https://www.zf.com/mobile/en/technol...s_driving.html

IIHS is trying to link driver preferences with rider preferences. Silly.

I'm 100% for getting people that do not enjoy driving into an autonomous car as fast as possible. I think 2025 might be early, because just like electric cars and hybrids, while the companies are all for it, the general public might not be as eager.



Also it looks like true actual 5g being everywhere is the absolute minimum beginning of true autonomous vehicles. That alone could also cause issues, because while certain urban areas could do this easily, rural areas like mine can have places where there still is zero actual signal to be had anywhere. I'll be all for actually getting good phone and internet service.



The other really good thing about it is along with telecommuting and 5g, it will revolutionize our society.

If people would just stop destroying the towers!


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As someone who has extensive experience on Canadian roads (in Canadian weather), do you think that we can expect to see autonomous vehicles rolling down the street in, say, London ONT anytime soon?

Everytime I see the shoddy state of our roads and lane markings (or drive on a snow-covered multi-lane) I just can't help but be massively-skeptical about the claims that we'll be puttering around in our AV Pods within 10 years.

In Cupertino, maybe - but the rest of the world, with poor roads, poor weather/visibility, etc., I just can't see it happening.

Define "soon". In 15 or 20 years maybe, yes. The road markings will be irrelevant once the tech advances. Visual scanners will play a small part in the actual positioning of the cars. Keep in mind that the tech that has been made public is the very tip of the iceberg of what is being worked on.

15-20 years sounds plausible.
Sometimes the media/Muskists make it seem like the AV revolution is coming within 10 years though.

Side note: I'd love for some tech that can scan a few hundred meters ahead and detect potholes, ice chunks etc.

Fully autonomous driving will take a full infrastructure and standardization before it can ever be completely effective. Individual cars looking for lines on the road and relying on radar signals will never be able to do it.

Potholes not yet but even the collision avoidance on the wife's Outback will pick up anything larger than a good sized cat. Considering that is far from cutting edge stuff then it is feasible.

Some people (esp Tesla fanbois) think level 5 autonomous driving will be with us very soon (1-3 years). 15-20 years is far more realistic of an expectation. And even then it will just apply to compact urban areas and possibly most interstate type roads (not backroads).

More and more publications are wondering if it will never happen...but that seems unlikely.

Why don't we just teach people how to drive?

i'm not interested in 5g in it's current state. not for the cancer/voodoo, or whatever other reasons others keep dreaming up. i keep reading articles about how terrible the sub-millimeter signal travels, and how easily it's blocked by literally everything, and how many antenna's are needed for just basic coverage for a single city block...

i don't need or want anything faster. 4g is plenty of speed for me. heck, 3g was plenty fine until many sites started doing every-sentence-ad's... but i didn't argue with 4g because they didn't need to obliterate any area with multiple-more antenna's to cover the same area the old tech used...

it's become a running joke in many automotive news circles that any technological advancement is only 2 years out at any given moment.




looking through the categories that iihs created for all of the reports, it seems that a computer driving would have a significant effect in every one of them, not just 1/3 as they say-- outside of a vehicle component failure, most of the categories are heavily defined by the driver either making sporadic decisions, or being distracted in a number of different ways...

a computer following a pre-planned route, and abiding by the local laws, would not be affected by the majority of the circumstances...

i can't help but think that their funding source (insurance companies) is intentionally clouding the results for their own benefit...

Too hard.