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slopedhead11 06-04-2020 11:16 PM

CPO 86 with burnt clutch a week after purchase
 
I recently purchased a Certified Pre-Owned 2017 Toyota 86 last Saturday, May 23rd, it had an ODO reading of 40,670 miles. I was experiencing transmission issues throughout and my clutch was slipping. I suspected a worn clutch and took it into my local Toyota dealer to be looked at (41,490 miles). They're diagnoses were that my clutch was extremely worn, my throwout bearing was worn out and my flywheel was damaged. The dealer service department stated that all of the items plus labor would come to a total of $2400 for a new clutch assembly and new flywheel, with only the bearing being covered under the 7 year/100,000 drivetrain warranty or the 1 year/15,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty.

Is 2400 too much for a flywheel and clutch replacement? What should be the reasonable cost?

Given that I purchased the car a week ago as a CPO and drove it less than 1000 miles, the clutch should not have been as worn as it was, and the CPO inspection should have covered the damaged flywheel.

If my repairs are reasonably not covered by the warranty, is the quoted $2400 too high for the repair? Should I take it to an independent shop? Escalate it to Toyota Corporate?

Exrald 06-04-2020 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by slopedhead11 (Post 3338507)
I recently purchased a Certified Pre-Owned 2017 Toyota 86 last Saturday, May 23rd, it had an ODO reading of 40,670 miles. I was experiencing transmission issues throughout and my clutch was slipping. I suspected a worn clutch and took it into my local Toyota dealer to be looked at (41,490 miles). They're diagnoses were that my clutch was extremely worn, my throwout bearing was worn out and my flywheel was damaged. The dealer service department stated that all of the items plus labor would come to a total of $2400 for a new clutch assembly and new flywheel, with only the bearing being covered under the 7 year/100,000 drivetrain warranty or the 1 year/15,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty.



Is 2400 too much for a flywheel and clutch replacement? What should be the reasonable cost?



Given that I purchased the car a week ago as a CPO and drove it less than 1000 miles, the clutch should not have been as worn as it was, and the CPO inspection should have covered the damaged flywheel.



If my repairs are reasonably not covered by the warranty, is the quoted $2400 too high for the repair? Should I take it to an independent shop? Escalate it to Toyota Corporate?

That is waaay too expensive!!

I bought my Exedy Clutch kit and Flywheel online, then got it installed at The Racersline for a fraction of that price.

That dealership is trying to rip you off...

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slopedhead11 06-04-2020 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Exrald (Post 3338510)
That is waaay too expensive!!

I bought my Exedy Clutch kit and Flywheel online, then got it installed at The Racersline for a fraction of that price.

That dealership is trying to rip you off...

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is there a way to lower the cost of the replacement? should I shop around different dealers?

will changing the clutch at an independent shop void the CPO warranty?

DarkPira7e 06-04-2020 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by slopedhead11 (Post 3338512)
will changing the clutch at an independent shop void the CPO warranty?

If there is a CPO warranty, it should be helping you here. If it can't get you out of this expense, do you think it'll help you at all? Ask yourself- if drivetrain is not covered because it's wear and tear, what good does it do you? Certainly you're not going to bring it back to them for new windshield wipers, or if your directional bulb goes out.

Bring it to a regular shop with the new clutch and ask how much in labor it'll be if you supply parts.

Decep 06-04-2020 11:40 PM

At an independent shop i'd expect to pay half that. CPO obviously doesn't mean much apparently, who certified it and what did they certify?

slopedhead11 06-04-2020 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3338516)
If there is a CPO warranty, it should be helping you here. If it can't get you out of this expense, do you think it'll help you at all? Ask yourself- if drivetrain is not covered because it's wear and tear, what good does it do you? Certainly you're not going to bring it back to them for new windshield wipers, or if your directional bulb goes out.

Bring it to a regular shop with the new clutch and ask how much in labor it'll be if you supply parts.


the CPO warranty covers all drivetrain except for wear items like brake pads, clutch, etc., I believe it would cover things like knock if I were to experience it. But like you know, correct me if I'm wrong

DarkPira7e 06-05-2020 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by slopedhead11 (Post 3338518)
the CPO warranty covers all drivetrain except for wear items like brake pads, clutch, etc., I believe it would cover things like knock if I were to experience it. But like you know, correct me if I'm wrong

I just don't trust anyone that much. They can deem nearly anything as wear and tear if they want to slip out of something and you don't take them to court.

Just saying, don't have a false sense of security that anyone anywhere will do their job, or the right thing. Gotta look out for number 1.

Sorry if I seem like a skeptic, if you knew my history with my car you'd understand, but it's not my thread so I'm shutting up :)

slopedhead11 06-05-2020 12:47 AM

instead of paying for a full flywheel replacement would it be possible just to pay to get the flywheel refinished? i feel like that would take a couple hundred off the cost.

slopedhead11 06-05-2020 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3338525)
I just don't trust anyone that much. They can deem nearly anything as wear and tear if they want to slip out of something and you don't take them to court.

Just saying, don't have a false sense of security that anyone anywhere will do their job, or the right thing. Gotta look out for number 1.

Sorry if I seem like a skeptic, if you knew my history with my car you'd understand, but it's not my thread so I'm shutting up :)


If I take the car to a independent shop to get the clutch replaced, do you think it's worth it to spend another 100-200 to get an aftermarket clutch? possibly a stronger clutch and a lighter flywheel?
I was thinking the ACT street clutch and lightweight flywheel.
or should I stick to OEM?

DarkPira7e 06-05-2020 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by slopedhead11 (Post 3338548)
If I take the car to a independent shop to get the clutch replaced, do you think it's worth it to spend another 100-200 to get an aftermarket clutch? possibly a stronger clutch and a lighter flywheel?
I was thinking the ACT street clutch and lightweight flywheel.
or should I stick to OEM?

Go for the Exedy stage 1 clutch. It will hold quite a bit more power if you go Forced Induction and still drives nicely. Stay with OEM flywheel

Opie 06-05-2020 09:29 AM

The CPO inspection obviously was not done adequately. Contact the dealer it was purchased from and insist they make the car as it was advertised. If not cooperating contact Toyota corporate.

Grady 06-05-2020 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Opie (Post 3338586)
The CPO inspection obviously was not done adequately. Contact the dealer it was purchased from and insist they make the car as it was advertised. If not cooperating contact Toyota corporate.

Yes I would try to push it up. There is no way to prove you did not cause the damage but you can argue that you know how to drive a standard and this damage had to of been missed during their inspection. If they are doing the TOB then almost all of the labor is being covered. Maybe you can get them to cover everything or at least everything except the cost of the clutch. Don’t try to save money on having the flywheel resurfaced.

RZNT4R 06-06-2020 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3338516)
If there is a CPO warranty, it should be helping you here. If it can't get you out of this expense, do you think it'll help you at all? Ask yourself- if drivetrain is not covered because it's wear and tear, what good does it do you? Certainly you're not going to bring it back to them for new windshield wipers, or if your directional bulb goes out.

Bring it to a regular shop with the new clutch and ask how much in labor it'll be if you supply parts.

So, you bring your steak to the restaurant ask them to cook it?

Project N64 06-06-2020 04:32 AM

Have the dealer replace throw out bearing on their dime and provide an exedy clutch kit for them to replace. Think it's like 300 bucks. Am I missing something or you said dealer will cover tob? And that's worst case scenario, contact Toyota before though, they might cover it all.

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