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Newtothecarscene 04-13-2020 02:38 AM

Engine swap places
 
Hey guys kinda new to the car scene with the Toyota 86 owned it for about a year and was acting for a swap can’t do it myself unfortunately as no place at home

Was wondering are they any mechanic places that do the engine swap for you ? What price would I be looking for if I can ge the engine myself or better if they can get it for me and fix it

Thanks in advance

Jdmjunkie 04-13-2020 01:27 PM

What engine are you swapping in? Stock, 2jz, LS, K series?

Tcoat 04-13-2020 02:41 PM

Impossible for anybody except a local to answer this. Call around.
Expect it to cost far far more than you think it should. Also be prepared to be without the car for a prolonged period. This isn't a cheap fast thing even for a shop.

86TOYO2k17 04-13-2020 03:12 PM

Assuming not just swapping in different FA20, but doing a 2jz or k swap.

Set aside 30k$
Say good bye to your car since you wont see it again for 3 months.
Ship it to pure automotive
And enjoy once shipped back.

Paying an extra 2k$ in shipping (or however much two way shipping is) will be more than made up by having a reputable shop who has done this several times on our platform do this compared to having a random local shop, possibly even cheaper too.

Irace86.2.0 04-13-2020 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Newtothecarscene (Post 3318992)
Hey guys kinda new to the car scene with the Toyota 86 owned it for about a year and was acting for a swap can’t do it myself unfortunately as no place at home

Was wondering are they any mechanic places that do the engine swap for you ? What price would I be looking for if I can ge the engine myself or better if they can get it for me and fix it

Thanks in advance

You live in a big enough city that there must be dozens of places that CAN do a swap. I doubt many people here are familiar with the area, so you might want to try the regional forums.

There is a lot of unknowns:

--What engine? This will make a difference. LT4 built crate motor? Stock 3sge?

--What is this to be used for? Daily driver or track only?

--Canbus integration or not?

--ECU preference?

This can go on and on forever...

I suggest you figure out what your total budget is and what your goal is for your car then see if those two things are congruent, and if so, then determine what you can do within those parameters.

Newtothecarscene 04-13-2020 10:46 PM

Thanks guys all your answers cleared up all my problems definitely if i was going to swap it be either be LS2 or 2j but ive seen a K20 so that could be an option i think for the time being might just build the engine to handle about 400BHP i think that would be the best option or maybe turbo it see how it goes

86TOYO2k17 04-14-2020 12:29 AM

Many shops can do it. But not many have done it, let alone done several, let alone have designed essentially complete kits to do the swaps. I would only have pure auto or maybe element tuning has a swap kit they might do installs.

Or You could do typical build path in stages.
Cons are less power potential, maybe less reliability vs a swap.
Pros are about 2/3rd the price(leas depending on choices/diy), less all at once up front cost, simpler and easier to do yourself, learn about your car more, probably easier to troubleshoot when something goes wrong. Enjoy it in stages, each “upgrade” adds new enjoyment. Jumping straight to 500whp you’ll have more fun at first but only for so long once you get used to it. But every “stage” can add months of increased new enjoyment.
Could start
turbo run 7psi make a good 240-270whp depending on gas, save up fir wheels/tires and oil cooler, then turn boost up to make 290-320whp depending on gas and still have pretty good reliability
Then work on the rest of supporting mods, to handle more power, trans swap, catch cans, driveshaft, axles, suspension, brakes, and maybe hood vents, aero and weight reduction.
Then do a full built block and turn her up to 380-420whp depending on gas, And be all set to rip.

Then you’ll have 3 stages of power to enjoy and other performance improvements to enjoy overtime as you build it as well.

Tcoat 04-14-2020 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17 (Post 3319530)
Many shops can do it. But not many have done it, let alone done several, let alone have designed essentially complete kits to do the swaps. I would only have pure auto or maybe element tuning has a swap kit they might do installs.

He is in New Zealand. I doubt shipping it to Maryland is a viable option.

86TOYO2k17 04-14-2020 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3319608)
He is in New Zealand. I doubt shipping it to Maryland is a viable option.

Then the only logical solution is he should move to the states.

Lol good point, didn't pay attention to his Location. Maybe a swap isn't a viable option for him unless he can DIY. Probably some good shops in NZ still but how many of them have done much with the 86 let alone done a swap on one. I wouldn't want to be the guinea pig for someone.

Tcoat 04-14-2020 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17 (Post 3319622)
I wouldn't want to be the wallaby for someone.


FIFY


And there is NO logical reason to move to the States. None. Zero.

86TOYO2k17 04-14-2020 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3319633)
FIFY

USA, USA, USA!!!.

For a cool swap. Duh. Why else would someone uproot their entire life and move for.

FIFY too

Lol back on topic.

mkivsoopra 04-28-2020 02:03 AM

Synergy swap would be local to him :)


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