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cat94 04-11-2020 08:36 PM

Can't jump start car. Welded metal to strut bolt?
 
Hi,

I just tried jumping my '17 with a dead, original battery. When I attached the last point (negative on dead car's strut nut), there were sparks and the cable got hot so I disconnected everything.

It looks like theres some metal welded to the strut bolt... does anyone know what's going on? I've never had trouble jump starting a car before.

ybotspawn 04-11-2020 08:41 PM

I think some pictures would be nice. I’m just more curious why this goes in the tsb, warranty, and recall section?


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cat94 04-11-2020 08:56 PM

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I think some pictures would be nice. I’m just more curious why this goes in the tsb, warranty, and recall section?


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Not sure how to move, but I thought this was also a general issues section :(

I attached a picture of the strut bolt. Also want to add that I'm using a 6 gauge cable.

humfrz 04-11-2020 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cat94 (Post 3318441)
Hi,

I just tried jumping my '17 with a dead, original battery. When I attached the last point (negative on dead car's strut nut), there were sparks and the cable got hot so I disconnected everything.

It looks like theres some metal welded to the strut bolt... does anyone know what's going on? I've never had trouble jump starting a car before.

Well, let's see - + to + , - to - , make your last connection on the jump-or car.

Back in the day (not that anybody gives a shit) not ALL cars were negative ground - which led to several blown up batteries - :eyebulge:

humfrz 04-11-2020 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cat94 (Post 3318454)
Not sure how to move, but I thought this was also a general issues section :(

I attached a picture of the strut bolt. Also want to add that I'm using a 6 gauge cable.

Pay ol @ybotspawn no never mind, he must have missed his nap today - :iono:

:D

ybotspawn 04-11-2020 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3318469)
Pay ol @ybotspawn no never mind, he must have missed his nap today - :iono:

:D


Now that humfrz is here we can REALLY get this thread off track!


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cat94 04-11-2020 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3318467)
Well, let's see - + to + , - to - , make your last connection on the jump-or car.

Back in the day (not that anybody gives a shit) not ALL cars were negative ground - which led to several blown up batteries - :eyebulge:

That's unfortunate..

Oh, and the metal that was welded onto the strut bolt was caused by the jumper cable. There's enough extra material on there now that the nut definitely will not come off without some filing.

Tcoat 04-11-2020 10:08 PM

I know you said you did it right but are you 100% sure you had the cables hooked up right? That looks a lot like the results of positive cable straight to ground.

soundman98 04-11-2020 10:27 PM

yep, looks like a battery welder setup...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbq93kjFfLU

cat94 04-11-2020 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3318474)
I know you said you did it right but are you 100% sure you had the cables hooked up right? That looks a lot like the results of positive cable straight to ground.

I want to say yes, but I'm human so maybe I did get it wrong twice in a row :(

Hope I didn't break anything

Tcoat 04-11-2020 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cat94 (Post 3318483)
I want to say yes, but I'm human so maybe I did get it wrong twice in a row :(

Hope I didn't break anything

If the car you were trying to boost with is still running all is good.

cat94 04-12-2020 12:21 AM

Tried again with a different car (where I knew for sure + was positive :)) and there was no unintentional welding...

Now I feel dumb.. but how did I get it wrong twice??

Tcoat 04-12-2020 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by cat94 (Post 3318514)
Tried again with a different car (where I knew for sure + was positive :)) and there was no unintentional welding...

Now I feel dumb.. but how did I get it wrong twice??

If you knew how you got it wrong you wouldn't have got it wrong.

I did it once and blew the charging battery up all you got was a little arc weld so you have that going for you.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/RingedHeav...clam-small.gif

humfrz 04-12-2020 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cat94 (Post 3318514)
Tried again with a different car (where I knew for sure + was positive :)) and there was no unintentional welding...

Now I feel dumb.. but how did I get it wrong twice??

I find it easy, I do it all the time - just ask mrs humfrz - :iono:


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