Originally Posted by MCTeeJ (Post 3304885)

CEL *with* a pro tune is a big red flag to me. Maybe confirm the code? You said "I think". FYI cruise control doesn't work if there's any CEL. Most if not all pro tunes eliminate the cat code first thing, so it almost sounds like the guy removed the tune before trading the car in.

Originally Posted by dhuang (Post 3304912)

Sounds like he removed the tune if you're still getting a P0420 with an aftermarket header.

I had the same issue with my previous FR-S. Previous owner didn't bother tuning it and it would throw a P0420 for cat efficiency, which made it no fun to road trip back to GA from NJ since cruise control wouldn't work when the CEL was on.

Once I tuned it and disabled the cat codes, everything was good again.


Oil cooler suggests that the previous owner wanted to preserve the engine on track. I did a light track day in my stock BRZ w/ PP and even driving 3/10ths the oil temps were too high to be comfortable with.

Originally Posted by Atmo (Post 3304940)

For a few reasons, I'd return the car for a full refund of the purchase price, fees, and service contract. I realize this is contrary to everyone else's advice because:


--In order to qualify for a Toyota Extra Care Extended Warranty, the used vehicle must be certified. There's no way a Toyota flagged for warranty cancellation can be certified. Is it an Extra Care Warranty or 3rd party? If 3rd party, I honestly wouldn't count on their help if needed.



--There's no way to disprove a negative so you'll always be wondering "what if" and with your clinical OCD diagnosis, every unusual sound (and thin skinned 86's have plenty) may become stressful.


--Look up the vehicle sales and service history to verify if it's ever been dealer serviced. Independents or owner services aren't logged but it's a start since you'd think with two free services from new that the owner has returned to a dealer for service and maybe that's when it was flagged for some reason you need to know.


Start here, enter your VIN and let us know what you found:


https://www.toyota.com/owners/


--Depending on your state of residence, can you even get it through DEQ? In my state it would fail with a CEL making registration impossible until the car is fixed.


Good luck, just wanted to offer a contrary opinion based on sketchy available information.

Originally Posted by bazzookatooth (Post 3304947)

I appreciate your input.

With the OCD, you're absolutely right. Nuff said.

It was their platinum vehicle service agreement - Toyota direct. I agree that this application would likely be rejected.

It has been dealer serviced, the 7.5k and 15k maintenance was done early. Quite early. The car actually went to dealer auction at one point while changing hands.

I can register in a non emissions county for DEQ - I do this for my Miata.

The only other option is a '19 for 25k or an auto '17-18 for 19k.

I only make enough to justify affording 18-19, but the peace of mind may be worth it. I'm still very much in the fence.

The 2019 is Halo white though, and white is my color of choice on any sports car.

Originally Posted by Atmo (Post 3304940)

For a few reasons, I'd return the car for a full refund of the purchase price, fees, and service contract. I realize this is contrary to everyone else's advice because:


--In order to qualify for a Toyota Extra Care Extended Warranty, the used vehicle must be certified. There's no way a Toyota flagged for warranty cancellation can be certified. Is it an Extra Care Warranty or 3rd party? If 3rd party, I honestly wouldn't count on their help if needed.



--There's no way to disprove a negative so you'll always be wondering "what if" and with your clinical OCD diagnosis, every unusual sound (and thin skinned 86's have plenty) may become stressful.


--Look up the vehicle sales and service history to verify if it's ever been dealer serviced. Independents or owner services aren't logged but it's a start since you'd think with two free services from new that the owner has returned to a dealer for service and maybe that's when it was flagged for some reason you need to know.


Start here, enter your VIN and let us know what you found:


https://www.toyota.com/owners/


--Depending on your state of residence, can you even get it through DEQ? In my state it would fail with a CEL making registration impossible until the car is fixed.


Good luck, just wanted to offer a contrary opinion based on sketchy available information.

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3304958)

These are valid points based upon his EDITED first post.

Originally Posted by bazzookatooth (Post 3304942)

It has the tune. The shop that installed it showed me, they have their sticker and shop signatures of everyone who worked on it in the boot lid.

AFAIK it has the standard adjustable launch control, FFS, BS, and some weird setting when I click down on the cruise control the tach goes up to 10, then 9.5, 9, etc and the shift light stays on. No idea what that does. I have verified the tune is installed and working.

The sales rep said that they notified the PO it will have a CEL with the tune (he blamed the headers) but research suggests EcuTek can mask this. I will use my obd scanner and torque tonight and update everyone. It goes away after 20-40 miles.

Originally Posted by Atmo (Post 3305005)

What changed?

Originally Posted by Impureclient (Post 3304929)

In my opinion just the full clear wrap alone is a good indication it wasn't thrashed by the previous owner.