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SuperTom 02-18-2020 01:56 PM

Genuine SARD vs Sard "style" Wing
 
I know there is a huge price difference between the 2. Curious about the construction and weight differences


Genuine - is it full Carbon Fiber construction for the price, Also total weight?


Knockoff- same question full CF, or CF over a fiberglass base?
Weight according to FT86speedfactory is ~5.5lbs which isn't too bad.


Thanks in advance.

HaXx 02-18-2020 03:47 PM

I had the sard style carbon wing on for about a year and it was great. Only thing that happened was the bases faded brownish because they are anodized black, and anodizing fades in the sunlight. Car was parked outside at work all day. But I would absolutely get it again, I'm just going carbon trunk.

SuperTom 02-18-2020 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HaXx (Post 3300226)
I had the sard style carbon wing on for about a year and it was great. Only thing that happened was the bases faded brownish because they are anodized black, and anodizing fades in the sunlight. Car was parked outside at work all day. But I would absolutely get it again, I'm just going carbon trunk.



Something like the legs/base is no big deal, can always be repainted. More concerned with the wing construction itself.


Mine will be outside all the time as well how is the CF holding up as far as clearcoat peeling/yellowing?


Thanks for the input!

HaXx 02-18-2020 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperTom (Post 3300268)
Something like the legs/base is no big deal, can always be repainted. More concerned with the wing construction itself.


Mine will be outside all the time as well how is the CF holding up as far as clearcoat peeling/yellowing?


Thanks for the input!

the clear coat was flawless, no sun fading. and truth be told i was its second owner, and even by the end of my ownership the carbon deck and its clear was flawless. i mean photo ready. so u should def kep feelers out for a sard style, they do come up, and when they do they go fast.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 02-18-2020 09:35 PM

The carbon is FRP wrapped in carbon. I used to have the FRP sard style one and the bracket rubber shims that hold on to the edges of the trunk eventually disintegrated and left 2 bumps on each side of the trunk where the bolts have to be tightened. Not sure if that’s because it’s a rep. Also at highway speeds it wobbled very noticeably, don’t know if the “carbon” version would remedy that.

SuperTom 02-18-2020 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 3300367)
The carbon is FRP wrapped in carbon. I used to have the FRP sard style one and the bracket rubber shims that hold on to the edges of the trunk eventually disintegrated and left 2 bumps on each side of the trunk where the bolts have to be tightened. Not sure if that’s because it’s a rep. Also at highway speeds it wobbled very noticeably, don’t know if the “carbon” version would remedy that.

Thank you for your honesty. Im currently a CF trunk wingless.

Do you think the wobble had to do with the disintegrated rubber shims? or was it always like that?

HaXx 02-19-2020 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperTom (Post 3300375)
Thank you for your honesty. Im currently a CF trunk wingless.

Do you think the wobble had to do with the disintegrated rubber shims? or was it always like that?

i never had wobble, what cf trunk are you on? u gonna mount the sard to that?

SuperTom 02-19-2020 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HaXx (Post 3300397)
i never had wobble, what cf trunk are you on? u gonna mount the sard to that?

Seibon Dry Carbon trunk. Main reason looking at the SARD is the ability to unmount it , preferably with no damage to the trunk

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 02-19-2020 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperTom (Post 3300375)
Thank you for your honesty. Im currently a CF trunk wingless.

Do you think the wobble had to do with the disintegrated rubber shims? or was it always like that?

To elaborate a bit, the wobble was the wing itself going up and down in the airstream, not side to side. The supports are solid, it seemed as if the wing blade itself lacked sufficient rigidity.

SuperTom 02-19-2020 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 3300536)
To elaborate a bit, the wobble was the wing itself going up and down in the airstream, not side to side. The supports are solid, it seemed as if the wing blade itself lacked sufficient rigidity.

Did you buy yours new or used from someone.

That would be a problem as Im guessing the bolts to screw into are molded into the fiberglass. The only could think to secure it would be drill a hole on top of the wing down. A countersunk bolt might not be as much as an eyesore

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 02-19-2020 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperTom (Post 3300545)
Did you buy yours new or used from someone.

That would be a problem as Im guessing the bolts to screw into are molded into the fiberglass. The only could think to secure it would be drill a hole on top of the wing down. A countersunk bolt might not be as much as an eyesore

New. So I’m wondering if the CFRP version would be a tad more rigid on the account of the carbon on the surface taking some of the flexibility away. You could for sure do supports just like the Perrin ones for the STI wing. But as far as I can tell, that would have to be custom made and probably cause additional holes in the trunk.


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