| soundman98 |
12-29-2019 04:35 PM |
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Originally Posted by dodj
(Post 3286404)
What do the '17 lights do for you over the '13?
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the led turn signal is nicer. generally, different aesthetics.
but led has significant disadvantages when it comes out overall lumen output, and IR output, which many consider 'de-icing'. in the northern states, led would mean pulling over more to manually de-ice headlamps more often.
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Originally Posted by Vital
(Post 3286433)
Well the 2017+ are LEDs so they're already better than the 13s. Also, the 13-16 FRS (excluding the Release Series) came with halogens so the 17s would be a big improvement. The 13-16 BRZs all came with HIDs
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not true. at vehicle voltages, hid as a technology outputs more lumens overall, and is just now slowly becoming eclipsed by led in lumens/watt-- though no automotive led chip has that advantage currently-- the led automotive chips from osram and nichia are both hovering at less than 100lm/watt efficiency, despite the overall led market exceeding 150lm/watt efficiency.
that is why many automakers have resorted to multi-element led designs, because no current single led design is powerful enough to rival the output of hid in the same compact package.
also critical in this conversation is the US lighting laws were developed around the capability of sealed beam headlamps, so hid designs are inherently 'crippled' by wasting much of their output to comply with those factors of output regulations. led on the other hand can be modulated in a number of ways from optic design to drive current to meet specific output requirements, meaning that no output needs to be wasted to meet the same regulations.
but led is the latest-greatest buzzword.
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