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FR-YES 08-05-2012 05:10 PM

Paddle shifting automatic downshift
 
I just started messing with the paddles and it is awesome. Anyways I was wondering if most people are just allowing the transmission to down shift on its own or manually using the paddle to downshift. I'm just doing regular street driving and I feel like the transmission does such a good job of downshifting on its on. I want to keep my transmission in the best shape possible.

speedy racer 08-05-2012 05:16 PM

FR-S are meant to be driven hard, not pussified.

dnL 08-05-2012 05:27 PM

I don't think it makes any difference in terms of wear to the transmission whether you manually downshift it or if it does it on its own.

neutron256 08-05-2012 06:08 PM

If I'm coming to a full stop I'll just let it downshift in its own, but if say I'm slowing into a corner I'll manually downshift to keep the RPMs in the range I want. The ECU generally just downshifts enought to keep the engine from stalling as the RPMs drop.

Lonewolf 08-05-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FR-YES (Post 360848)
I just started messing with the paddles and it is awesome. Anyways I was wondering if most people are just allowing the transmission to down shift on its own or manually using the paddle to downshift. I'm just doing regular street driving and I feel like the transmission does such a good job of downshifting on its on. I want to keep my transmission in the best shape possible.

Don't listen to people who tell you to hammer your car when they aren't making your car payments...

Let the car get up to operating temp before pushing it and follow break-in procedures and you'll be fine...

rikdrt1 08-05-2012 06:17 PM

if your driving a bit hard, just put it in sport mode and enjoy. the shift points are so nice you dont even need to interfere and it even downshifts hard if needed - its really quite good. first time i tried it i was shocked how well and fast it works. i love the AT on the FR-S !

Nevermore 08-05-2012 08:43 PM

I was curious about this as well because I'll be getting an automatic and I can't drive a standard car, but I was thinking I might try the paddle shifters at least. I figured the upshift might not be too difficult without the clutch because I at least understand the workings of a manual, but I don't know anything about the downshift.

neutron256 08-05-2012 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nevermore (Post 361083)
I was curious about this as well because I'll be getting an automatic and I can't drive a standard car, but I was thinking I might try the paddle shifters at least. I figured the upshift might not be too difficult without the clutch because I at least understand the workings of a manual, but I don't know anything about the downshift.

Just make yourself use it you will quickly adapt. It will probably be a bit awkward at first especially is you've never been an MT driver, but it makes the experience much more interactive, and gives you almost the same level of control.

Jidonsu 08-05-2012 09:02 PM

The automatic gearbox won't downshift if the RPMs will end up being too high, so it's pretty fool proof

Snozzberries 08-05-2012 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by speedy racer (Post 360852)
FR-S are meant to be driven hard, not pussified.

Blip the throttle all day. I like the sound, can't wait for a new exhaust kit. :)

Edit*: Wasn't paying attention that this was in reference to the automatic. My bad.

Dadhawk 08-05-2012 09:55 PM

All the above.

To answer the OP, I didn't set out for this to happen, but I've gotten so used to the paddles that while driving I do downshift more than the computer on most drives, even when in "full auto". In fact, I no longer think about it, it just happens. I even double-down on the shift quite often from 6th to 4th when passing.

When "coasting" to a stop though, I only downshift when in manual mode, mostly out of laziness. I think the manual mode waits to long to downshift in a normal stopping situation, but it works fine in auto.

Nevermore 08-05-2012 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 361203)
All the above.

To answer the OP, I didn't set out for this to happen, but I've gotten so used to the paddles that while driving I do downshift more than the computer on most drives, even when in "full auto". In fact, I no longer think about it, it just happens. I even double-down on the shift quite often from 6th to 4th when passing.

When "coasting" to a stop though, I only downshift when in manual mode, mostly out of laziness. I think the manual mode waits to long to downshift in a normal stopping situation, but it works fine in auto.

About this double-down shift, I've seen it in person with a friend, and with this smart automatic, how long should a noob like me wait before even considering attempting a proper double-down pass?

Shu_Hayate09 08-05-2012 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by speedy racer (Post 360852)
FR-S are meant to be driven hard, not pussified.

you didnt really answer his question

His question clearly was whether ppl let the car downshift automatically or if you press downshift on the paddle

he didnt ask whether you thought it should be driven hard? i dont get it ...

why did you say that lol

but yea i think if someone wants to beat their car to shit, more power to them, but be prepared for more frequent services and part replacing

PS: i UPSHIFT the car on my own but i agree. it feels better to let it downshift on its own when city driving :)

neutron256 08-05-2012 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nevermore (Post 361226)
About this double-down shift, I've seen it in person with a friend, and with this smart automatic, how long should a noob like me wait before even considering attempting a proper double-down pass?

Just try it. I do it all the time. The computer won't let you push the car past redline the worst you'll really do is scare people with how badass your car sounds as the RPMs jump.


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