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Ryan GT86 12-09-2019 07:51 AM

Can someone confirm if the Grimmspeed Air Intake will fit with the Jackson Oil Cooler
 
Can someone confirm whether or not the Grimmspeed Cold Air Intake will be compatible with the Jackson Racing Track Oil Cooler for MY17+ 86s?

GrimmSpeed 12-09-2019 12:48 PM

I know that with banjo fittings almost any oil cooler would fit. However, we have silently released a V2 airbox that has a half inch more clearance in this area, so fitting oil coolers should be much easier. I don't have confirmation specifically, but it was close before, and now we've given it some more room for clearance.

Chase
Engineering

DarkSunrise 12-09-2019 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimmSpeed (Post 3281638)
I know that with banjo fittings almost any oil cooler would fit. However, we have silently released a V2 airbox that has a half inch more clearance in this area, so fitting oil coolers should be much easier. I don't have confirmation specifically, but it was close before, and now we've given it some more room for clearance.

Chase
Engineering

Do have any pictures of the revised airbox, preferably with an oil cooler sandwich plate installed?

GrimmSpeed 12-10-2019 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 3281772)
Do have any pictures of the revised airbox, preferably with an oil cooler sandwich plate installed?

Nope we don't, it will look exactly like any other installed picture. The difference is that on the back of the airbox, the section that is sloping down in the back corner where there was previous contact with some sandwich plates, this section now has an additional half inch of clearance. This isn't something you'd even be able to notice unless it was installed on a car with an oil cooler that was previously close.

This is a change that I made years ago to accommodate sandwich plates, but it didn't make it into production for a long time. As I mentioned we silently released this version earlier this year, so older versions will not have this additional clearance.

Chase
Engineering

churchx 12-10-2019 03:15 PM

@GrimmSpeed: hence how one might ensure/check/distinguish (w/o unpacking/measuring) getting V2 if that is one's need/goal for that extra clearance of oil coolers, and if buying from 3rd party retail shops, if change was silent? I'm sure that buying directly from you would net new version, but it's possible for other shops to have older batches, no?

norcalpb 12-10-2019 07:11 PM

I have a Grimmspeed intake and the Jackson racing sandwich plate.

On my 2013 they touch each other.

GrimmSpeed 12-11-2019 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by churchx (Post 3282019)
@GrimmSpeed: hence how one might ensure/check/distinguish (w/o unpacking/measuring) getting V2 if that is one's need/goal for that extra clearance of oil coolers, and if buying from 3rd party retail shops, if change was silent? I'm sure that buying directly from you would net new version, but it's possible for other shops to have older batches, no?

There is no way to distinguish between new and old versions other than ordering from us directly. I don't have any knowledge or way to control the stock on any retailers shelves so I can't comment on what they do or don't have unfortunately. We simply added a feature for fitment and released it to make some people's lives more convenient. Its certainly not something we had to do, but rather something that we wanted to just because it makes it a better part.

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Originally Posted by norcalpb (Post 3282101)
I have a Grimmspeed intake and the Jackson racing sandwich plate.

On my 2013 they touch each other.

Important to note that you have the V1 intake. Also, even with them touching for years now has there been any sort of catastrophic failure or oil leaks or anything? Any picture of it so I can illustrate where the clearance will be on V2 with this combo?

Chase
Engineering

norcalpb 12-11-2019 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GrimmSpeed (Post 3282273)
There is no way to distinguish between new and old versions other than ordering from us directly. I don't have any knowledge or way to control the stock on any retailers shelves so I can't comment on what they do or don't have unfortunately. We simply added a feature for fitment and released it to make some people's lives more convenient. Its certainly not something we had to do, but rather something that we wanted to just because it makes it a better part.



Important to note that you have the V1 intake. Also, even with them touching for years now has there been any sort of catastrophic failure or oil leaks or anything? Any picture of it so I can illustrate where the clearance will be on V2 with this combo?

Chase
Engineering

I actually bought the intake used about a month ago lol, but you are indeed correct this is the V1 and there have been no oil leaks or anything.

It's my fault its scratched, I can be aggressive with my installs sometimes.

My oil cooler lines are Perrin, but the sandwich plate is Jackson Racing, and holy shit my coolant is low.

How much is the updated box design?

https://i.imgur.com/1CZvd26.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tx8B2YN.jpg

churchx 12-11-2019 05:04 PM

From looks of it .. i wonder if just one, updated, part/"wall" of airfilter box can be replaced / ordered of V2, more clearance, type separately from Grimspeed?

norcalpb 12-11-2019 05:05 PM

Also wanted to mention my stock airbox would touch the sandwich plate as well, so in order to change the filter I would have to remove the whole airbox as it didn't have room to fully open.

With the grimmspeed intake you just take off the cover screws which makes this process 1000x easier.

DarkSunrise 12-11-2019 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norcalpb (Post 3282386)
Also wanted to mention my stock airbox would touch the sandwich plate as well, so in order to change the filter I would have to remove the whole airbox as it didn't have room to fully open.

With the grimmspeed intake you just take off the cover screws which makes this process 1000x easier.

This is one of the reasons I'm thinking about this intake. If the new version clears without touching, I'll probably get one.

BTW I've got a Perrin oil cooler and the sandwich plate looks very similar to the one you've got. Might actually be the same.

GrimmSpeed 12-11-2019 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by norcalpb (Post 3282383)
I actually bought the intake used about a month ago lol, but you are indeed correct this is the V1 and there have been no oil leaks or anything.

How much is the updated box design?

https://i.imgur.com/1CZvd26.jpg

Ahhhhh, that makes sense, also thank you very much for the photos, this is helpful for this thread!

So the updated box design moves the offending wall (seen here with the scratches) a half inch in, away from the fittings. This will remove the contact, and allow for an easier installation.

Unfortunately we do not sell just the box, however for you application even with the contact you're most likely not going to ever run into a serious issue. Its not like the box is going to wear through the fitting or anything.

Quote:

Originally Posted by churchx (Post 3282385)
From looks of it .. i wonder if just one, updated, part/"wall" of airfilter box can be replaced / ordered of V2, more clearance, type separately from Grimspeed?

We wouldn't separate the box anyway as they are riveted and then powdercoated as a unit, but even if we could both the bottom and top of the box have the same modification to move that wall in a half inch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by norcalpb (Post 3282386)
Also wanted to mention my stock airbox would touch the sandwich plate as well, so in order to change the filter I would have to remove the whole airbox as it didn't have room to fully open.

With the grimmspeed intake you just take off the cover screws which makes this process 1000x easier.

This is a really good point, granted you don't have to remove the air filter all that often, but doing less worse is usually always preferable :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 3282393)
This is one of the reasons I'm thinking about this intake. If the new version clears without touching, I'll probably get one.

BTW I've got a Perrin oil cooler and the sandwich plate looks very similar to the one you've got. Might actually be the same.

Yeah, both of those sandwich plates look like the mocal unit, I'd be surprised if they weren't. I think Jackson racing updated their design to this funky angled outlet that was these 180 degree fittings for their current release but I'm not certain:

https://counterspacegarage.r.worldss...n/install3.jpg

All of this just to get clearance for the stock intake :P I believe ours will work fine with almost any, if not any, oil cooler sandwich plates, especially the ones we're discussing right now.

If you do end up going with our air intake (and a brand new V2) I would love to see some pictures so we can start getting the word out, so let me know.

Thank you!
Chase
Engineering

Ryan GT86 01-14-2020 11:18 PM

https://i.imgur.com/acnh9Ii.jpg

So I can confirm the V2 intake fits. About half an inch of clearance between the airbox and the oil cooler lines.

GrimmSpeed 01-15-2020 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryan GT86 (Post 3290618)
So I can confirm the V2 intake fits. About half an inch of clearance between the airbox and the oil cooler lines.

Ryan, thank you for posting that picture and confirmation!

Chase
Engineering


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