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StraightOuttaCanadaEh 12-31-2019 09:53 AM

I just softened my coilovers by 3 clicks all around and the thing understeers like a pig on the on ramps. Will try to get better winter tires next year

NoHaveMSG 12-31-2019 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 3287095)
I just softened my coilovers by 3 clicks all around and the thing understeers like a pig on the on ramps. Will try to get better winter tires next year

Do you swap out the summer air that accumulated in them while they sat, or did you put fresh winter air in them?

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 12-31-2019 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3287097)
Do you swap out the summer air that accumulated in them while they sat, or did you put fresh winter air in them?

fresh crisp winter air! 35 psi all around. They're just shit blocky gummy tires. I'll spend money next year and get those... what are they called...LM32

CrowsFeast 12-31-2019 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 3280556)
Just to clarify for a lot of folks, this is ***COMPLETELY*** track and driver dependent. It 1. depends on the driver to maximize the grip of a lesser tire, and 2. it strives to find the balance between cornering speed and straight line speed. To a lesser degree, it is vehicle setup dependent.

The average driver will usually find more value in a larger tire giving them more thermal capacity, rather than seeking the theoretical "fastest" setup that they may not be able to fully exploit.

Do you have a link to a thread for this? I've always been lead to believe that you should run as much tire as you can (read a lot of Vorshlag's build threads). I'm certainly open to learning new/better things though.

I'd also guess that it's heavily track dependent if you're balancing straight line vs cornering. I don't get a lot of long straights at the nearby tracks I run.

DarkPira7e 12-31-2019 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 3287098)
fresh crisp winter air! 35 psi all around. They're just shit blocky gummy tires. I'll spend money next year and get those... what are they called...LM32

Try stabbing the brakes before engaging the corner to transfer weight onto the front tires if the corner isn't too long!

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 12-31-2019 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3287129)
Try stabbing the brakes before engaging the corner to transfer weight onto the front tires if the corner isn't too long!

Oh I've done that, but that would be quite scary on an on-ramp lol. This was almost the end of the on-ramp and I suddenly felt the nose push wide. It was a strange experience as I've never felt the car do that before. If anything, it always is super keen to turn in, granted that's when it's on sticky wide summer tires and with the coilovers firmed up. But with the softer setting and crappy snow/ice tires, that's hard. I need better coilovers and better tires.

CSG Mike 12-31-2019 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CrowsFeast (Post 3287116)
Do you have a link to a thread for this? I've always been lead to believe that you should run as much tire as you can (read a lot of Vorshlag's build threads). I'm certainly open to learning new/better things though.

I'd also guess that it's heavily track dependent if you're balancing straight line vs cornering. I don't get a lot of long straights at the nearby tracks I run.

There's no specific thread holding the data. Everyone's finding's are different because it's dependent on many factors.

churchx 12-31-2019 06:16 PM

@StraightOuttaCanadaEh btw, have you checked state of bushings? I had noticeable handling change mid turn when leaning more on side, when my front LCA whiteline front bushing's metal core separated from poly surround.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 12-31-2019 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by churchx (Post 3287194)
@StraightOuttaCanadaEh btw, have you checked state of bushings? I had noticeable handling change mid turn when leaning more on side, when my front LCA whiteline front bushing's metal core separated from poly surround.

I haven’t recently, no. I don’t think there’s a problem, I’m gonna go with Occam’s razor here and just assume it’s cold weather + slick pavement + shitty driver + even shittier tires + crap coilovers with horrible valving.


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