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scuzzy 11-08-2019 03:03 PM

If it's a daily driver just get better tires.

Tristor 11-08-2019 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FinallyGot (Post 3274040)
I'm thinking of getting a staggered setup. Thoughts on this spec?
Wondering if fitment would be flush. I'm aware of the wheelitfit website but I'm a bit confused looking at it. Some people say there is rubbing running 9.5" then others say they have no issues.

Front: 18x8.5 +45 Tire: 235
Rear: 18x9.5 +45 Tire: 245

As mentioned before I'm on stock suspension. Stock brake kit, maybe upgrading.




Don't run staggered setups on this platform. It's doable, but require significant adjustment to compensate. The platform is not designed for staggered and it negatively affects driving dynamics without compensating in geometry.

Also, for stock suspension I'd recommend 9" wide or narrower wheels, going wider than 9" will be problematic. To run wider than 9" you need to run aftermarket suspension arms to adjust camber to prevent rubbing and usually aftermarket endlinks as well.

17x9 +41 or +42 is about perfect on stock suspension to get a flush look and meat. 18x8.5 +44 is also about perfect on stock suspension.


The rear technically needs a little more offset which can be corrected with slip-on spacers, but it's not necessary.

FinallyGot 11-08-2019 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristor (Post 3274072)
Don't run staggered setups on this platform. It's doable, but require significant adjustment to compensate. The platform is not designed for staggered and it negatively affects driving dynamics without compensating in geometry.

Also, for stock suspension I'd recommend 9" wide or narrower wheels, going wider than 9" will be problematic. To run wider than 9" you need to run aftermarket suspension arms to adjust camber to prevent rubbing and usually aftermarket endlinks as well.

17x9 +41 or +42 is about perfect on stock suspension to get a flush look and meat. 18x8.5 +44 is also about perfect on stock suspension.


The rear technically needs a little more offset which can be corrected with slip-on spacers, but it's not necessary.

I'll probably get 18x8.5 front and back. However About spacers, Is it safe to run them? Whats the torque required? Lmao I'm just scared to be cruising on the highway then look in my rear view mirror and see my wheel flying off.

8RZ 11-08-2019 04:32 PM

Just buy some extended studs to be safe.

TommyW 11-08-2019 05:26 PM

For ride quality stick with 17" wheels. Good tires of whatever width you like and some good lowering springs and the car will look great handle well and you aren't spending a bunch of money on coilovers that you don't need for the street anyway. 18's look a bit better but then you have the form and function thing going on, a bit harsher ride for a slight improvement in looks

Tristor 11-08-2019 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FinallyGot (Post 3274075)
I'll probably get 18x8.5 front and back. However About spacers, Is it safe to run them? Whats the torque required? Lmao I'm just scared to be cruising on the highway then look in my rear view mirror and see my wheel flying off.


You don't have to have spacers, they're just for flushing the wheels out in the rear for looks. As long as you have good thread engagement it's the same torque as normal... 89 lb/ft. I've been running billet spacers on track and on the street the whole time I've owned my car. If you buy quality spacers and torque your wheels properly you've got nothing to worry about.

If you want more than a 3mm slip on spacer though, you need to get extended studs and open-ended lug nuts. ARP extended studs and CSG Spec lugs are where it's at.

Will BRZ 11-17-2019 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo (Post 3273607)
Now, If I had things to do over...

I would get first:
1" drop springs
SPC LCA
Whiteline bumpsteer kit
camber bolts
spacers for stock wheels.

Later I would upgrade the shocks to koni or bilsteins. Then buy a set of wheels. 18x9 +30 to +45 is a good size IMO.

:cheers:

Now that you’re on coilovers, you wouldn’t have gone for coils right away along with the LCA and all that?

86TOYO2k17 11-17-2019 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristor (Post 3274111)
You don't have to have spacers, they're just for flushing the wheels out in the rear for looks. As long as you have good thread engagement it's the same torque as normal... 89 lb/ft. I've been running billet spacers on track and on the street the whole time I've owned my car. If you buy quality spacers and torque your wheels properly you've got nothing to worry about.

If you want more than a 3mm slip on spacer though, you need to get extended studs and open-ended lug nuts. ARP extended studs and CSG Spec lugs are where it's at.

Not sure if every wheel has the same thickness at the lug holes. But i got 8 1/4 turns on my lugs with a 4mm spacer.

Will BRZ 11-17-2019 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by darksnyder (Post 3273690)
Find below 18" TRD SF rims on Pilot Super Sport 225/40/18 on stock suspension. Changing to MPSS has totally changed the way the car grips now!

225/40/18 is perfect on stock suspension. Fills up the wheel well nicely and isn’t that far off of stock diameter. I’d probably just get spacers in the rear and a lip kit or something. Though there’s something about a meaty tire on a 17 with a one finger gap between the tire and fender that I love :iono:

Leonardo 11-18-2019 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Will BRZ (Post 3276126)
Now that you’re on coilovers, you wouldn’t have gone for coils right away along with the LCA and all that?

No way. I would not get coils again. I would upgrade to koni or bilsteins. I would also keep my rubber bushings and not go pillow-ball everywhere.

245's fit on a 9" wide wheels.

9" wide wheels fit without coils.

Anyway... It's all just a learning experience for me... :cheers:

FinallyGot 11-19-2019 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TommyW (Post 3274106)
For ride quality stick with 17" wheels. Good tires of whatever width you like and some good lowering springs and the car will look great handle well and you aren't spending a bunch of money on coilovers that you don't need for the street anyway. 18's look a bit better but then you have the form and function thing going on, a bit harsher ride for a slight improvement in looks

Love this Idea, Any recommendations for lowering springs?

TommyW 11-19-2019 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FinallyGot (Post 3276534)
Love this Idea, Any recommendations for lowering springs?

it depends on how low you want. 3/4 is good and 1” seems a bit much. I’ve had good luck with H&R however there is RCE, Hotchkiss, etc.

HaXx 11-19-2019 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FinallyGot (Post 3276534)
Love this Idea, Any recommendations for lowering springs?

the rce yellows
i dont even have them, but its just known that they are the gold standard
heres a thread about coils, and the yellows are talked about a bunch
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137716


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