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soundman98 10-06-2019 01:07 AM

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anyone else have issues with the wipers chattering? i've adjusted(ie; carefully twisted with an adjustable wrench) the arms now so they chatter going up, but wipe smooth going back down. can't seem to get them to wipe smoothly in both directions.

only 'mods' so far is a set of bosch icon wiper blades, and i aquapel'd the windshield from the first week i got the car in '14.

i've been considering using hose clamps on some of the spring coils to tighten up the arms..

anyone else have any suggestions? the chattering is getting on my nerves.

daskaman 10-06-2019 04:25 PM

Chatter is from the wipers and the hydrophobic coating fighting each other.
If any left over aquapel/rain-x, apply a small amount to a rag and running it up and down the blade that is contact with the window.

Chatter should cease

Ultramaroon 10-06-2019 04:41 PM

....edit NVM... Have you twisted them to the point where they chatter going down? Are the Bosch frames hastily-molded or sloppy?

humfrz 10-06-2019 05:35 PM

Bubba says to take some alcohol and clean all that crap off the windshield, then, go buy new wipers (arms and all).

(this is one of Bubba's better suggestions - ;))

humfrz for Bubba

soundman98 10-06-2019 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3264385)
....edit NVM... Have you twisted them to the point where they chatter going down? Are the Bosch frames hastily-molded or sloppy?

they originally chattered going down, i tweaked the arms so now they chatter going up, but wipe smooth going back down.

soundman98 10-06-2019 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3264395)
Bubba says to take some alcohol and clean all that crap off the windshield, then, go buy new wipers (arms and all).

(this is one of Bubba's better suggestions - ;))

humfrz for Bubba

i always clean the windshield with stoners invisible glass, which i believe is alcohol-based.

honestly, i used to use phaze glaze on the windshield for the water beading effect. but i've never had a car with wiper chattering issues like this.

ELLSSUU 10-06-2019 09:14 PM

Get some Bar Keepers Friend and clean your windsheild thoroughly.

I had really bad chatter on a Toyota SUV. New blades, wipers and tweaking never helped. BKF every other wash and the chatter is gone. I don't use RainX or anything else anymore.

DarkPira7e 10-06-2019 09:35 PM

Make sure to clean your blades themselves! When this starts happening, I assume it's because the rubber on the blades has hardened into a bent position and skips when going against that direction.

Replacing the blades has always fixed this on every car I've owned as long as the windshield has been cleaned well

soundman98 10-07-2019 12:44 AM

It's done it from the first day i installed the blades. But I'll pick up a new set tomorrow

And there's no way I'm stripping the glass and running nothing but wipers. The coatings make it a million times easier to see in hairy situations.

humfrz 10-07-2019 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3264526)
It's done it from the first day i installed the blades. But I'll pick up a new set tomorrow

And there's no way I'm stripping the glass and running nothing but wipers. The coatings make it a million times easier to see in hairy situations.

I'm thinking the advertisements for that stuff got to you - :iono:

:D


humfrz

soundman98 10-07-2019 01:49 AM

The usage got to me. I don't believe in a product until i try it. Rainx sorta works, but wears out after a week. Aquapel works a minimum of 6months. The water beads up, and most speeds above 40, I don't need the wipers. It's how this issue is only just starting to get on my nerves more now than 4 years ago.

I've got a work van that did without. The slightest drizzle requires the non-intermittant wiper setting to keep the windshield turning into looking like a sheet of wavy leaded glass

Ultramaroon 10-07-2019 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3264292)
i've been considering using hose clamps on some of the spring coils to tighten up the arms.

The stock blade frames are also wang shaped for down force. They are very effective for pushing the blades into the glass. Do the Bosch ones have the wang shape?

soundman98 10-07-2019 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3264546)
The stock blade frames are also wang shaped for down force. They are very effective for pushing the blades into the glass. Do the Bosch ones have the wang shape?

they look/work like a leaf spring, so i guess? the only 'wang' i know is another word for 'dick'. lol.

LimitedSlip 10-07-2019 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3264546)
The stock blade frames are also wang shaped . . .

Hmmm . . . clearing the windshield with a pair of phalli.

Not going to be able to un-see that one . . . :eyebulge: :eyebulge: :eyebulge:

On the plus side, they could have integrated washers. :thumbsup:

Mr.ac 10-08-2019 03:17 AM

How old are your wipers?
If it's more than a year they are fucked. No other way to fix it. Just buy new ones.
Yeah it's a scam. That's why I now buy the cheap $8 ones every year.

wolffbite 10-08-2019 03:19 PM

My stock wipers started to fail (chatter, streak, crack etc.) 6 months after I got the car.

Currently on a nearly 2 year old set of Rain-x Latitude that are still noise free. I wipe clean and wipe them with Rain-x at every wash. They only cost a bit more than the stock wipers.

I also have a Carpro Forte Flyby50 ceramic coating on my windshield... tried rain-x on the windshield glass for a while but it would barely last between washes or more than a couple of days of rain. I still use rain-x on my side glass, side mirrors and rear glass occasionaly and it holds up OK. Coating wasn't cheap but it has lasted over a year and still sheds water nicely at highway speed.

ls1ac 10-08-2019 06:39 PM

Rainx works very well and will last several months if the glass is VERY clean and is applied and let set before cleaning off. I use brake cleaner on a rag after I have cleaned with glass cleaner. I rub the rainx into the glass with small piece of cotton. Good blades changed regularly like, rainx blades or one of the new silicone type. Life is greatly shortened with extended use of the wipers in a light mist.
I turn the wipers off at night in a light rain at speed, it is easier to see than with the wipers running.
I drove from Chicago to Syracuse one night in a light rain and the only time I turned them on was in slow traffic in Cleveland.
I have tried several different produces given to me at SEMA and have gone back to Rainx.
In your case I have no idea what the ceramic coating would do to the effectiveness.

G-awesome 10-09-2019 08:47 PM

I also swapped my oem blades with aftermarket bosch wiper blades and get the chattering on occasion. If it starts chattering when it rains, just clean the window and wiper blades with rain-x cleaner so there's a fresh coating on both the blades and windows so it'll wipe nice and smooth.

Or if you're lazy, just spray with wiper fluid when it rains so there's less friction when it the blade wipes the window.

Ultramaroon 10-09-2019 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3264858)
they look/work like a leaf spring, so i guess? the only 'wang' i know is another word for 'dick'. lol.

I fail. Tried to make a joke reference to...


https://images.cdn.circlesix.co/imag...2309022a84.jpg

RToyo86 10-09-2019 11:33 PM

Beyond what was mentioned a good cleaning of the blade with 100% IPA.
There is also the old trick of rubbing some 2000 grit sandpaper to reveal soft rubber on the edge of blade. It could revive them if they're drying or contaminated.


Maybe I'm lucky but I'm still on my OE blades after 18 months and 40k km. I originally coated the blades with rain-x and did the windshield. Then maintained with opti-seal.

Now I'm also using aquapel. For the price it's hard to argue using more expensive treatments.
opti-glass is on my to try list. Much like car pro flyby it lasts a year, and adds chip resistance. I wish they sold it in a smaller bottle though. Based on application instructions one bottle will last year's.

humfrz 10-10-2019 01:16 AM

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Maybe I should get out more, but, I still have the original wiper blades on my car. They seem to work just fine after 6 years. I do wipe the blades with alcohol about once a year.

I never have put any kind of "treatment" on my windshields - it's GLASS for cryen out loud!


humfrz

soundman98 10-10-2019 10:23 PM

i got some new blades for now. we'll see how they work over the next week.

RToyo86 11-15-2019 08:24 PM

Reviving this to see what blades users are running.

Recommendations and things to avoid.

Ever since I aquapel'd the windshield my driver blade is leaving a streak in my field of view on the return stroke.

Ultramaroon 11-16-2019 02:02 AM

OEM inserts in the stock frames. Nothing on the windshield. Like God intended.

humfrz 11-16-2019 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3275772)
OEM inserts in the stock frames. Nothing on the windshield. Like God intended.

Why are some folks making this sooo hard?


humfrz

Ultramaroon 11-16-2019 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3275778)
Why are some folks making this sooo hard?


humfrz

I went through it. rain-x, wax, double wiper blades, etc.

WNDSRFR 11-16-2019 09:21 AM

I just replaced my wiper blades with these:

https://www.amazon.com/QUALITY-BEMOS...NsaWNrPXRydWU=

I just cut them to size and slid them into the OEM wiper blade holders. You have to remove the metal strips from the originals and reuse them with the new rubbers. I got two 24 inchers because the drivers side is 22 inches and the other side is 20 inches. And the 24 inchers were available for Amazon Prime.

GrantedTaken 11-16-2019 11:17 AM

Rubber is brittle.
You need new blades.
Solved

soundman98 11-16-2019 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RToyo86 (Post 3275716)
Reviving this to see what blades users are running.

Recommendations and things to avoid.

Ever since I aquapel'd the windshield my driver blade is leaving a streak in my field of view on the return stroke.

i went with the rainx silicone beam style wiper blades. it seems that was the main issue, though i only used them 3 times since, so not what i would consider an adequate test.


stock never worked for me, the independent parts freeze up in cold weather, and then i can't see at all!

if the wiper is bouncing on the return stroke, my solution was to tweak the wiper arm with an adjustable wrench.

Decep 11-16-2019 02:11 PM

every once in a while i clay bar my windshield and wipe it down with rubbing alcohol and get it nice and clean. makes a big difference in how well your wipers work.

humfrz 11-16-2019 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantedTaken (Post 3275827)
Rubber is brittle.
You need new blades.
Solved

NOW, you tell me! - :eyebulge:


humfrz

JD001 11-16-2019 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3264395)
Bubba says to take some alcohol and clean all that crap off the windshield, then, go buy new wipers (arms and all).

(this is one of Bubba's better suggestions - ;))

humfrz for Bubba

The OP can also check brake pads, bearings and bushes as you never know.. unusual vibration through components may lead to clattering wipers.

soundman98 11-16-2019 04:04 PM

I CAN'T SEE THE BRAKE PADS BECAUSE IT'S THE WORST DESIGN EVER

JD001 11-16-2019 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3275924)
I CAN'T SEE THE BRAKE PADS BECAUSE IT'S THE WORST DESIGN EVER

If your wipers didn't clatter, worked as they should you would see your brake pads!!

RToyo86 11-16-2019 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3275833)
i went with the rainx silicone beam style wiper blades. it seems that was the main issue, though i only used them 3 times since, so not what i would consider an adequate test.


stock never worked for me, the independent parts freeze up in cold weather, and then i can't see at all!

if the wiper is bouncing on the return stroke, my solution was to tweak the wiper arm with an adjustable wrench.

I noticed the same freezing issue with the stock blades. Winter car washes didn't help the issue either.

I decided to try out the bosch icon as they're well reviewed. I didn't see any rain-x at crappytire.

I didn't even think about inserts for the OEM blade. I forgot that was a thing. Where do you get them

RToyo86 11-16-2019 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Decep (Post 3275904)
every once in a while i clay bar my windshield and wipe it down with rubbing alcohol and get it nice and clean. makes a big difference in how well your wipers work.

I've probably Clayed my windshield more than others have Clayed their car :D.

Probably a big reason my OE blades lasted 18 months.

Ultramaroon 11-16-2019 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3275833)
the independent parts freeze up in cold weather, and then i can't see at all!

Worst wiper design ever.

Tcoat 11-18-2019 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3275944)
Worst wiper design ever.

Just look at any other car in a parking lot...

JD001 11-18-2019 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RToyo86 (Post 3275933)
I've probably Clayed my windshield more than others have Clayed their car :D.

Probably a big reason my OE blades lasted 18 months.

Only 18months? 18months of constant rain? Mileage over the 18months? I have the OEM wipers from 2014 still on my car...

RToyo86 11-18-2019 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 3276303)
Only 18months? 18months of constant rain? Mileage over the 18months? I have the OEM wipers from 2014 still on my car...

43,000km on the car. Our weather the last two years locally has been shit. They worked perfectly with rain-x. As soon as I switched to aquapel, they started to streak. The rubber is still supple and does not chatter. But the 2-3"streak in front of my eyeline drives me crazy.

Temperature fluctuations between +40c summers and -40c winters don't help.


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