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86TOYO2k17 12-27-2019 09:47 AM

Boostane has done and posted many dyno tests as well as independent dyno testing showing it works.

new2subaru 12-27-2019 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JDM_Import (Post 3286117)
Who said anything about 8oz of RaceGas? You need boost and 32oz of RaceGas to make that kinda power.


In my next post I said that I read it wrong...

RFB 12-27-2019 04:00 PM

The 2 or 3 brands of octane booster that really work are no substitute for real high octane race gas available from tracks and some race shops.

Their real value is for 94 tuned cars in areas where 94 is not sold or when it is out of stock in your locality , or when high octane race gas is unavailable to mix in lower octane fuel.

I've used TORCO in my FRS since 2012, stock and boosted, when I got a bad batch of 94 that showed knock, in travel through areas with no 94, or at Mosport , Cayuga etc. when the pumps are closed. The small amount (of TORCO) required to bring it up to 94 makes it economical.

In those conditions of over 7 years use, no problems were caused. All it did was leave an orange colour to the plugs and cat, and the cat did not plug up.

I am assuming the new competitors to Torco are similar.

:cheers:

86Tony 01-02-2020 02:03 PM

You can get vp race gas and e85 locally.

SpankNapkin 01-06-2020 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 86Tony (Post 3287541)
You can get vp race gas and e85 locally.

E85 in the GTA? Where? And how much $$?

86driftcar 01-13-2020 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SpankNapkin (Post 3288525)
E85 in the GTA? Where? And how much $$?

I'd like to know the answer to this too...

RayRay88 01-14-2020 10:53 AM

Last I checked, only FT86Motorsports carried E85. You can always import it by the barrel yourself. VP and race gas can be bought by the barrel pretty easily if you know where to check.

wparsons 01-14-2020 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RayRay88 (Post 3290422)
Last I checked, only FT86Motorsports carried E85. You can always import it by the barrel yourself. VP and race gas can be bought by the barrel pretty easily if you know where to check.

Buying by the barrel is hugely cost prohibitive unless you're only using it for special occasions. You also need to be able to store it properly to keep moisture out of the drum once opened.

A 5 gallon drum (19L) is like $80-$100 Canadian IIRC, and a 55 gallon drum (208L) is like $500-$800 Canadian (depending on brand, etc), plus shipping.

Touge Tuning was selling it for about $2.50/L a while ago, not sure if they still do at all or what the prices are like now.

Assuming the cheapest prices, you're still looking at almost double the cost of pump gas, plus then have to take into account the extra consumption from it burning richer. It's way better than traditional race gas, but still not cheap at all like it is down in the US where it's usually cheaper than regular pump gas.


Not sure about the RaceGas additive, but Boostane would need about 12oz added to a full tank to bring 93 octane up to 100 octane, and a can of 32oz is under $30 Canadian (based on exchange only, haven't looked to buy it locally). Much cheaper than e85 on a per tank basis.

RayRay88 01-14-2020 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 3290536)
Buying by the barrel is hugely cost prohibitive unless you're only using it for special occasions. You also need to be able to store it properly to keep moisture out of the drum once opened.

A 5 gallon drum (19L) is like $80-$100 Canadian IIRC, and a 55 gallon drum (208L) is like $500-$800 Canadian (depending on brand, etc), plus shipping.

Touge Tuning was selling it for about $2.50/L a while ago, not sure if they still do at all or what the prices are like now.

Assuming the cheapest prices, you're still looking at almost double the cost of pump gas, plus then have to take into account the extra consumption from it burning richer. It's way better than traditional race gas, but still not cheap at all like it is down in the US where it's usually cheaper than regular pump gas.


Not sure about the RaceGas additive, but Boostane would need about 12oz added to a full tank to bring 93 octane up to 100 octane, and a can of 32oz is under $30 Canadian (based on exchange only, haven't looked to buy it locally). Much cheaper than e85 on a per tank basis.

Oh I agree 100%, just answering the question above. It's really not worth it at all for us up in Canada, but for those odd few occasions that call for it, it can be found.

I've seen few amateur race teams buy it in bulk, or a few buddies get together and split a barrel or two over the summer.

Turbo 01-15-2020 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 3290536)
Not sure about the RaceGas additive, but Boostane would need about 12oz added to a full tank to bring 93 octane up to 100 octane, and a can of 32oz is under $30 Canadian (based on exchange only, haven't looked to buy it locally). Much cheaper than e85 on a per tank basis.


Is boostane available in Canada? When I first when shopping for an octane additive it wasn't.

I saw Sasha using RaceGas so I tried that and it's been great.

new2subaru 01-15-2020 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbo (Post 3290678)
Is boostane available in Canada? When I first when shopping for an octane additive it wasn't.

I saw Sasha using RaceGas so I tried that and it's been great.


I've seen this article at Touge Tuning. I may try it. I see it at a local shop.


https://tougetuning.com/do-octane-bo...roven-results/

Turbo 01-15-2020 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by new2subaru (Post 3290690)
I've seen this article at Touge Tuning. I may try it. I see it at a local shop.


https://tougetuning.com/do-octane-bo...roven-results/


Thanks, Glenn!


Nice that it's available in 5 gallon pails. Looks like that will drop the cost by about 50% compared to buying the 32oz cans.

JDM_Import 01-19-2020 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RFB (Post 3286182)
The 2 or 3 brands of octane booster that really work are no substitute for real high octane race gas available from tracks and some race shops.

Their real value is for 94 tuned cars in areas where 94 is not sold or when it is out of stock in your locality , or when high octane race gas is unavailable to mix in lower octane fuel.

I've used TORCO in my FRS since 2012, stock and boosted, when I got a bad batch of 94 that showed knock, in travel through areas with no 94, or at Mosport , Cayuga etc. when the pumps are closed. The small amount (of TORCO) required to bring it up to 94 makes it economical.

In those conditions of over 7 years use, no problems were caused. All it did was leave an orange colour to the plugs and cat, and the cat did not plug up.

I am assuming the new competitors to Torco are similar.

:cheers:


Thanks for sharing some good points. I also see real real value in going from 94 Octane to approximately 99-100 Octane.
Orange plugs will definitely happen with octane boosters. In regards to that bad batch of 94 Octane you experienced... its always good to have 91 Octane back up map!

JDM_Import 01-19-2020 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RayRay88 (Post 3290546)
Oh I agree 100%, just answering the question above. It's really not worth it at all for us up in Canada, but for those odd few occasions that call for it, it can be found.

I've seen few amateur race teams buy it in bulk, or a few buddies get together and split a barrel or two over the summer.


I rather go with an Octane booster any day!


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