These cars already exist.
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And the back seat is absolutely useful for dogs. That’s what kept me from a Cayman; the six figure price tag kept me out of the 911, which would have worked perfectly for me, the wife, and one or two of the dogs.

I second this, there’s no way a stock twin does 0-60 (0-100 km/h) in under 6 seconds. Best I’ve seen is high 6s. Not that it matters that much.

It is absolutely useful for people as well. Sure it would not be great for a cross country trip but if you want or need to take more than two people for a short run it is fine. I would not have bought it if it was a two seater. I have two grandsons that both want to ride in grandpas car when we pop into town from the cottage. If I could only take one it would have resulted in bloodshed at some point. They know it isn’t a limousine but we still manage to fit everybody in even now that they are 5 years older and that much bigger.

If you want the room, there is no reason to get rid of the back seats, as long as they fold down, even if it is a hatch. I personally like the flexibility and just having the space shut off from the cabin.

Like this though: (plus then it might ACTUALLY be able to fit the track tires with tools. I can't carry my 255 track tires in it with my tools currently)
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Then add an armrest, stiffer door checks, get rid of the torque dip (and a modest bump to 220 hp seems reasonable, especially since weight will likely increase somewhat), rear brakes that actually do something (seriously, what's with the finger size pads?!), roller adjustment for the seat back (so you can snug yourself into the locked seatbelt better at the track), slightly better audio quality (seriously, I'm no audiophile but this system is pretty bad).

I miss the auto dimming rearview mirror of my E46 and the auto-tilting passenger mirror for parking (extra useful to be able to tell where the curb is when reversing in or parallel parking, requires no additional motors, only programming).

Don't want convertible. Want fixed-roof coupe.

I would like to see a whole family based on a small, lightweight rwd platform. 2-seat sports car, 2+2 coupe, hatchback, 4-door a la Datsun 510, 5-door hatch, bring 'em I say! (not gon happen I know)

You know that the Jag E-type coupe was a hatchback. Also, Datsun 240Z, Supra, a whole host of cars that look nothing like a Corolla. Hatchbacks are (or can be) cool...

Coupe is fine, but plenty of cars have come as both coupes and hatchbacks over the years. Including the car that the FT86 is *really* the resurrection of: S13 240SX. And for years the Z was available as a short-wheelbase 2-seater and a longer-wheelbase 2+2. Why not, I say...

I would like to see a greater variety of small/lightweight/fun rwd cars.

Keep the coupe, stop the stupid.[/QUOTE]

Golly, I get the feeling that you think my opinion is stupid. I certainly didn't mean to make anyone angry. I thought the OP wanted everyone's opinion. Sorry...

I've never dyno'd. Every time I floor it on 1st gear, even to this day, I honestly look down and double check if I left the traction control on or if I am accidently in 3rd gear instead of 1st. Not kidding here.

It is a wish list thread so anything goes really.
I personally just find it very interesting that most of the wishes turn it into a car that already exists from other manufacturers or are so radically different from what it is now that to keep the same name is silly. People are looking for a ground up change which is just not likely to happen.

There is something seriously wrong with your car then.

-Port over the FA24DIT from the Ascent. No changes to the engine itself.
-Keep same transmission (with uprated clutch/flywheel)
-Same chassis
-Largely same chassis tuning
-Up to a 225 square setup instead of the 215
-Minor exterior "refresh". Body only.
-Minor interior updates
-Optional performance package gets some "1LE" like things like oil coolers, different ABS tuning, and no lift shift like all the GM performance vehicles have. $2,000 option.

Increase the price ~$2,500 as most models tend to go up anyways.

That's what I'd like to see for the next generation.

My God, barf is right. Lol [emoji2961][emoji2961][emoji2961]
The twins should always be a 2+2 sporty coupe. It’s one of the few car designs left that isn’t overdone styling wise.

And I [emoji3590] STI’s, but they’ve lost some of that quirkinesses I used to really like in the bugeye version. (Same for the WRX)



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I hope they give everything that the haters have complained about. I want them to give it a turbo, 260hp, brembos, weigh in at 2600 lbs, lower COG, blah blah blah. On paper I want it to be amazing.

Upon release there will be great praise as the car has "been fixed"! Everything will be fine for a while. Then some Kyle will blow one up before 10k miles doing donuts at a cars and coffee. Then it will start to become an epidemic. Threads will infect this forum with stories of them blowing up "for no reason". Re-calls will make matters worse. The track guys will start blowing up left and right like every other forced induction Subaru. Then, everyone will covet and respect the first gen as the most fun version and praise it for being the amazing car that it is. - and that is what I wish. lol.

For real tho, keep it as close to the same as the first gen as they can. I like simple lightweight rwd cars. As little nannies as possible (just more stuff for me to rip out on its way to becoming a track car).

I suppose the twins are a spiritual successor to a lot of different Japanese, affordable, front engine RWD cars. I didn’t think the S13 was a inspiration for Toyota or Subaru. The twins do sort of carry the flag for all of those prior fun cars. And they do a damn good job of it. This car doesn’t need to be tweaked much at all. A little bump in power, and more lighter is all it really needs.


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:cry: Maybe that's why I'm so slow. :iono:

Have you tried shaking it really good and them hitting the bottom of the bottle?


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welp... your joke is like my power band.

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If they make what people here are asking for then Kyle will not be able to afford it!


They will however sell in droves to middle aged men with lots of gold chains. They will drive it every Sunday making sure to never take the revs over 1,000 or take it out at all if there is rain in the forecast. They will proudly show it off and talk about all the specs while maintaining the mileage to under 2,000 miles a year. Engines will be barely broken in after 5 years of ownership.


Eventually enough of them will get bored and sell them which will bring the used price down to something that Kyle can afford. He will have to wait until he has enough revenue from his anime action figure unboxing videos on YouTube but that shouldn't take to long if his parents front him the cash.


Once Kyle has it he will immediately rip all the suspension out to upgrade it with $200 worth of parts from EBay, swap the engine for something 30+ years old because it needs at least 400 hp to be drivable and those old engines are the bestest ever and put 4 inch spacers on the wheels so that the fitment looks right. He will pastidip everything in the interior and the tail lights as well as install headlights that are twice as bright as the sun so he can see 26 miles ahead when driving.


Within one month he will be complaining that he has received 286 speeding tickets because the police need the cash, his insurance rates are the equivalent of the GOP of a East European country because the companies are greedy and his neighbours are all haters because they do not enjoy his 400db exhaust and pop and bang tune when he red lines it down the street at 2am.


Eventually (about a year I would guess) it will all end with "Is this totaled? It wasn't my fault since the roads had dew on them".

I totally agreed with your statement Takumi. I hate when people in this forum or in one of this "expert car "magazines/sites criticize current version because is "very slow" : like if most of people know how to drive PROPERLY a car with 500 hp's or a car that make 0-60 Milles in 2 seconds... or when complain due not enough nannies to help hem to drive "safe" and "comfortable". I appreciate the F-RS/BRZ/86 in the way that is now: pure and basic drive enjoyment. Personally believe that twins are a well engineered cars, in special at this tag price. Of course have a better sports cars, but for this price? nothing.

Same wish as Takumi, hopefully Toyota/Subaru keep this car as close as it is now, only with few improvements.

What a proper hatch looks like:
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I guess you don't look at cars much.

Oh my, here we go again.

The difference being, if I recall proper, people just picked one and didn't try to make one of these the other.

1970 Camaro - 360 HP - $3,100.

1970 MGB-GT - 95 HP - $2,600.

We just picked one and didn't bitch that it wasn't like the other one.


humfrz

Golly, I get the feeling that you think my opinion is stupid. I certainly didn't mean to make anyone angry. I thought the OP wanted everyone's opinion. Sorry...[/QUOTE]

I apologise if my reply offended

I personally think the twins are great the way they are.

All this talk seems like people have purchased the wrong car, and instead of buying a different car, they want to change this one.

Both the coupe and "liftback" S13's IMO are fugly so no, I don't pay them much attention

S15 on the other hand....

Golly, I get the feeling that you think my opinion is stupid. I certainly didn't mean to make anyone angry. I thought the OP wanted everyone's opinion. Sorry...[/QUOTE]

Tcoat lives on this site and has to post on every thread multiple times. Sometimes he gets ornery, don't take it personally, id be miserable too if this site was my life. Seriously, I hate scrolling past his bs to get to something worth reading. In the future do the smart thing and ignore/don't read his posts. I'm timing this to see how quickly he responds

The Only thing I would change is I just want a Targa Top. I've even considered modding it, but its important to look Clean and made that way.

He wasn't talking to or about me Numbnuts. Obviously you do not read enough.

27 minutes.

awkward :s

Meh. You gotta' love the irony of somebody stating I have no life because I post a lot and then turning around and saying they spend enough time reading to just ignore everything I say.

Is everybody supposed to just smile and nod at all the bullshit? Actually having a counterpoint is bad somehow? He must be an "engineer" working on an expose on the great Subaru battery charging scandal of 2017.

Or just another annoying snowflake that is so afraid of being offended that they are offended when it doesn't happen.

:lol: I haven't heard that term in quite a while - :D


humfrz

It seemed to fit the situation.

Tcoat lives on this site and has to post on every thread multiple times. Sometimes he gets ornery, don't take it personally, id be miserable too if this site was my life. Seriously, I hate scrolling past his bs to get to something worth reading. In the future do the smart thing and ignore/don't read his posts. I'm timing this to see how quickly he responds[/QUOTE]

DANG, Freerider - I suggest you take a pill - :eyebulge:

(or consider using the little symbols off to the right of the screen)

:D

humfrz

Tcoat lives on this site and has to post on every thread multiple times. Sometimes he gets ornery, don't take it personally, id be miserable too if this site was my life. Seriously, I hate scrolling past his bs to get to something worth reading. In the future do the smart thing and ignore/don't read his posts. I'm timing this to see how quickly he responds[/QUOTE]

Hi Freerider, I have to speak up for my friend Tcoat. He is not the one that I quoted. In fact, he's been very helpful to clear up this whole unfortunate incident. It's partly my fault, that I didn't include the original poster's handle in my quote. I guess I don't fully understand how the quote thingy works. Bottom line is - Tcoat is not the one who called my opinion stupid. And - the person that did write that has apologized. So this is all cleared up. In my experience, everyone has the right to a bad day. Everyone has made a statement that they may look on later, and regret - and try to make right. That is humanity, and we are all human.
By the way, I still think the next generation 86 should have only 2 seats, a hatchback, and a convertible variant - and the Subaru version should be AWD.
I'll shut up now, and possibly start regretting THIS post!

LOL

How fun is the interwebs

As long as you don't take things to heart and acknowledge that alot of people are basically stupid and have limited actual life experience you can have a fun ride.

I am stupid but I'm not giving anybody any fun rides!

I am stupid, old, and opinionated

I have all of the requirements of a interwebs expert

Strap up and hold on

Wouldn't mind the car being a hatch or the interior looking a little nicer etc. but honestly i hope they don't change anything on this car besides the uninspiring boxer motor. I know it will never happen but this car would be perfection with either a fun power band NA 2 liter like the motors in the old Toyota XRS/beams/4age etc. or a turbo 2L like an sr20det or 3s-gte. They were so close to building the perfect new age exciting, cheap, light sports coupe but, the subaru powerplant just made it way less fun than it could have been.

Do not change much, the platform is great as-is.

1. Relocate the turn signals so they do not interfere with front bumper removal.

2. A second fuel pump in tank or a surge tank to prevent gas starvation, should be able to run on gas fumes like NA Miatas.

3. Optional Recaro seats (go and sit in a Civic Type R).

4. 2.4L N/A high revving engine with 230-240 bhp and a bit more torque (may need beefier brakes too). This will allow us to tune the car to 230-240 whp which should be just perfect for hpde's.

5. Factory oil cooler.

My wish list...

Realistic:
1) I don't care for the sound quality, a premium stereo option would be nice.
2) ARP Wheel Studs
3) I like the RS option mentioned.

Semi-Unrealistic:
1) Have Porsche develop a new FA20...based off a 981 GT4 that would be 250-260hp...make it rev to 9krpm, and PDK...I'd buy one right now.
2) Big stupid yet functional aero options, I like big wings I cannot lie.
3) Factory backed Spec Class

Seeing a lot of derision over coupe vs hatchback, so i guess I should stay out of it...

I like fastbacks a lot though.