I can't believe people are seriously asking for this to be a hatchback :suicide:

I did.

Seriously. I bought this car to drive tens of thousands of miles per year for work. It's almost perfect as an extremely practical daily driver.

A hatch would increase the utility, and the car is shaped right for it. I wouldn't want it if it increased the weight or decreased stiffness, but all other things being equal why would you not want a larger cargo opening?

Not to mention unattractive.

Don't care about more power, utility, creature comforts, etc.

I want pop up headlights.

Only if they're vacuum-operated so that the car winks when it's older and develops vacuum leaks.

Hey! She's a moped. Not much to look at but fun to ride.

I think that's called the aftereffects of a stroke. @humfrz

Hatch would be nice, is 230-240hp too much to ask?

Oh, good thought - I'll use that the next time I get caught winking at a pretty girl - :thumbsup:


humfrz

Does.. anyone else smell toast?

I thought that’s what Toyota’s D4S does on the FA20? Direct and port injection


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No thanks, hatchbacks are great, but there are plenty of hatchback choices out there. The twins should always have a small coupe design.


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Very true, didn’t think of that


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The new CTR can rotate as well as most RWD cars. What Honda did is staggering. If they ever released a version without the crazy wing, etc, I would want one.


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I think a liftback would be cool. Still keep most of the sleek coupe styling but add that extra bit of practicality of having a bigger opening.

I think they could keep the same platform, with the following changes:

- Find a way to cut weight to 2600 lbs. More high strength steel and aluminum for the unibody, control arms, suspension, etc. Lightweight battery in the trunk. Delete the spare tire. Aluminum driveshaft. Whatever it takes, as weight reduction is the key to making this work and, for foreign market tax reasons, keeping the 2.0L. Bringing me to the next point.

- Keep the FA20, but optimize high rpm flow for 8000 RPM redline and 220 hp on 93 octane. Maybe flexfuel/e85 compatible for 230 hp.

With those two changes, the Twins leapfrog the 2019 ND in terms of performance, while keeping their practicality. Production costs go up with the more exotic materials, but development costs saved by reusing much of the existing platform should help offset that.

My wish list:
~230hp/170tq
*Shorter reverse, but taller 6th
*Sliding/extending sun visor
*One touch lane change blinkers
*Larger trunk opening
*Minimal weight gain
*Armrest standard
*No fake anything
*Adjustable lumbar support

Reading all these requests reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Homer's brother lets him design "The Homer" car.

I'm sure it's a fantastic car. It's just not one I want. I want rotation under power, not because of a loose rear.

I'm looking to get a Fiat 500E. It understeers hilariously.

BRZ has one-touch blinkers?

1) Hatch Version
2) Make it Lighter 100kg if possible
3) 2.4 boxer we have been speculating about

I totally get that, and RWD has a balance and cornering feel nothing else can match. That being said, the CTR is legitimately fast, like no FWD car should be that fast. Again, it all comes down to want you want in a car. I’m not concerned about setting the fastest HPDA lap times, I want a car I connect with.

My experience driving a Fiat 500 Abarth was 100% smiles and laughter, so I say go for any of the Fiat 500 models. [emoji16][emoji106]


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I want those on my FR-S!! The only “modern” feature I miss. Did the 86 update that?!


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302 hp, t-tops.


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If they ever released a stripped down version, it would never see America.

Sad but true [emoji853] And I think it would be a good seller for Honda. I know the styling has kept many people away, despite how great a car it is. Just look at how nice and clean the 1st-4th gen CTRs look. And bring back the white wheels. [emoji16]


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230 HP, Targa top [emoji1]

The twins will never see 300hp, unless it’s done aftermarket


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8000rpm or higher redline! I wanted this so badly especially when that yellow gto gives you the point by but does not let off the gas(or maybe he did?)!

Haha or the red Cayman S, white e92 M3, black Mustang GT... not that I'm upset or anything :D

Flocked dash pad

Less rubbish aesthetics and convenience stuff.

To hell with it, lets go.......

Track spec model:

Flocked dash
Plaid tartan seat covers
Haltech ECU
Haltech IQ3 Display and Logging dash
No AC (still has a heater though.....)
No PS
No radio
Rear seat delete (because cage)
Fixed front seats to suit 6 point with airbags (Recaro please make, k thanks)
6 point harness
17 x 8 RPF-1
225/45 17 Advan A048
MCA Gold series coilovers
Camber solutions
Built block
AVO turbo
Holinger 6 Speed Sequential
Mechanical 1.5 way
Water to oil heat exchanger
Whiteline bushings (everywhere)

Well, that's to start

Hang on

I can do this myself





Or........hybrid, auto, life sucking, eco friendly, gen Y millennial complaining version with things to help you drive to the shops, connect to failbook, twatter your life and other shiny things to keep their attention.

We will for sure get a new special color and some added comfort features. I see a VIP package coming:

- Seafoam green exterior with classy periwinkle blue accents
- Driver facing camera so we can live stream while driving
- Vape chargers in center console, one for driver and each passenger
- Ash trays, 6 of them
- Bench seats in front and rear for more passengers
- Driverless feature so we can get some sleep at the track
- Rear brakes are drum to keep costs down
- Make it a hatch so Grandma can fit her wheelchair back there
- Plaid removable vinyl seat covers so when the kids drop ice cream all over them

Are those plaid removable vinyl seat covers available now.

YES > https://grizzshopping.com/products/r...ar-seat-covers

Do want the plaid tartan

The ones in the pic are not as fast because they have less stripes, and everyone knows stripes add performance.

I've driven an Abarth. Almost bought one but went with the FRS. No regrets there. Leased a 500E. OMFG is that a fun little car. Turned it in. Got a Spark EV. Turned it in. Got a Ram 1500. Got an I-Pace. I wanted the 500E again since about 3 months after I turned it in.

I watched a review on a 2019 86 a long time ago and the only complaint I remember from it was that there was no one-touch blinkers. :bonk:

This is atrocious.

"(7) Bigger oil sump (extra 2 litres of motor oil) to extend service interval from 5,000km to 10,000 km."

My 2018 has service interval of 15,000km or 9mths here in Aus.

I get that it is a "wish list" so beyond reproach but reading some of these totally ludicrous wishes is hilarious.
Either there are going to be some totally disappointed people or Toyota is just going to re-release the 1974 Celica lift back.

Just, please, not one of these.

https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploa...8159885797.jpg

I hope Toyota/Subaru build pretty much the exact car with new styling and spend all the development money on having two engines on offer, NA and a higher powered TC variant.. Even though I've always been in the "just enough power" boat for the twins, I have absolutely hated hearing the power argument come up again and again on YT, articles, magazines, forums, etc...and since the Zupra most likely will never come with a stick, for me a turbo 86 with a stick would be the next best thing.

Other than that, the only real wishlist item for me would be to have a liftback/hatch (miss my 240SX's hatch) but only if we would still be able to carry 4 mounted wheels....following the twins has been a wonderful journey and I'm looking forward for many more years of driving fun!

Hell yeah perfect. I think 230 is a solid number. Good enough for those happy with a stock car, but also leaves room for those who want more out of the car to modify as they wish.

I'm kinda open to the idea of a T top BRZ, but I'd have to see it first. Miata and S2000 guys have shown that you can track an open top car with no compromise. Would be interesting to see and I wonder how many people would actually buy it lol
Lol if have plaid seat covers then you definitely pull your E-brake in park.

Mainly.... leave the car alone!

No hatch
No shooting brake
No turbo
No Disneyland dashboard
No refinement
No delete options
No targa top
No sunroof


But do address torque dip
Spoiler/wing dealer installed option
Delete sound tube

All electric option with all wheel drive and 600 mile range.

That covers it.