Originally Posted by pslater (Post 3342179)

hi andrew,


i just installed some lightly-used Tarmac 0's and while the performance is awesome, i am also getting some odd noises.



when the car is cold, i will get some weird groaning when turning the wheel maybe the first 5-7 times, and it's clunking over bumps/imperfections at very low speed. when the car is warmed up, the groaning and clunking goes away.



historically this latter noise has always been a slightly-loose top mount nut, but it's definitely tight. i do suspect that the mount is tired (it came used with the coilovers), so i have some Group N mounts on order. i suspect that will cure that. i also have some adjustable end links on order as the stock links are quite close to the lower front control arms.



as for the groaning... it does seem like it's the sound of the spring moving; shouldn't the bearing in the top mount allow the spring stay put? (i.e., the entire assembly turns.) if the spring is indeed turning, i guess a torrington bearing would work in between the spring and the perch, but i've never had to do that before with stock strut mounts (always with spherical bearing camber/caster plates, though).


this is on a 2018 BRZ RS (Performance Pack up here in canada) with roughly 9K miles on it, so everything else is super-fresh. the nice slotting of the upper strut housing bolt holes allowed me to dial in some negative camber, and that coupled with the spring rate/damping harmony have really amplified the joy i get from this car. thanks for the great setup!


peter

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 3342451)

If the top mount is indeed a little old and crusty, that could also cause some of the groaning while turning the wheel. Start there and let me know how it goes. :)

- Andrew

Originally Posted by Mike_ZN6 (Post 3343309)

Has anyone used the Hotchkis front/rear endlinks with KW based coilovers? I have RCE SS-1 and I noticed the geometry of the stock endlinks does not look correct when the car is very low. The Hotchkis endlinks are very low profile and feature stock looking bushings rather than spherical so I am interested in getting them before my next alignment, but I am not sure if they are short enough?

Originally Posted by pslater (Post 3347232)

which hotchkis end links are you referring to? a quick google search for me yielded adjustable ones.

Originally Posted by Mike_ZN6 (Post 3347272)

I was referring to the adjustable ones. I guess my question was actually can the Hotchkis end links be adjusted short enough for a very low car with KW coils? I swear I read somewhere on this forum that somebody had to cut theirs because they were too long even in the shortest position.

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3347290)

Call them and ask how long they are and what the adjustment range is. Then compare them to the whiteline parts the rest of us are using. Whiteline lists the lengths and adjustment ranges of theirs on their website.

Originally Posted by Mike_ZN6 (Post 3347308)

I actually emailed them about it a few weeks ago and they never got back to me. I guess I will need to give them a call.

Originally Posted by J95 (Post 3599198)

Guys I'm really lost with this topic, I've read literally everything: some say you need shorter links, others say longer, others say that up to 40mm drop you can use oem ones

Please someone who is 100% sure, which length of end links I need for my setup: KW v3, oem sway bar, ~1.3"/33mm drop?

Originally Posted by Ruben_86_ (Post 3599538)

You do not need to change them with kW v3 / cs

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3599994)

I had to change them with T2's which are V3 based :iono:

Originally Posted by Ruben_86_ (Post 3600041)

I know some people with V3 without those problems.

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG (Post 3600097)

I guess we need to take different sway bars into account. I have the Perrin adjustable on the softest mounting point. Moving the mounting point may have also caused an issue.

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 3600156)

Definitely recommend adjustable endlinks with adjustable swaybars or if you're corner balancing the car.

- Andrew

Originally Posted by KiK (Post 3600175)

Could you elaborate please?
As you may remember from the other thread, I will be running corner balanced V3s with a 20mm drop on stock sway bar and end links.

Is that an order for me to spend more money? (I don't take those lightly [have already ordered the 60-170 at your indirect direction :D])

Originally Posted by KiK (Post 3600175)

Could you elaborate please?
As you may remember from the other thread, I will be running corner balanced V3s with a 20mm drop on stock sway bar and end links.

Is that an order for me to spend more money? (I don't take those lightly [have already ordered the 60-170 at your indirect direction :D])

Originally Posted by KiK (Post 3600175)

Could you elaborate please?
As you may remember from the other thread, I will be running corner balanced V3s with a 20mm drop on stock sway bar and end links.

Is that an order for me to spend more money? (I don't take those lightly [have already ordered the 60-170 at your indirect direction :D])

Originally Posted by J95 (Post 3600526)

We will run the same setup, even same springs as I also ordered 60-170 for the rear. Will be curious to find if you finally needed the adjustable end links :D

Originally Posted by KiK (Post 3600555)

No, I'm curious to find if *YOU* need the adjustable end links :laughabove: