Ahhh...didn't realize the piston was hidden. I assumed an inverted damper would have a piston similarly exposed like that of inverted motorcycle forks. Got it now.

If those were the pistons, this would be a hydraulic press.

Hence, my initial "Wow!"...

No plan to offer the Verus steering limiter kit. On the Miatas, and Mustangs we developed as well as the 86, we just don't use full lock when parking. Not quite as fool proof as actual limiters but we're OK with that.

We always publish dyno charts, when the time comes.

Our view on presets or recommend adjustments is that there is no such thing. As a brand, we prefer not to spoon feed actual tuning settings to folks but instead really drive the point home on how important and critical it is to learn your own setup personally. Become your own expert. No one on the planet can tell you what your optimum ride heights, camber settings, rake, pressures or damping settings are. In fact, those optimum settings change as your tires cycle out, weather changes, switch from HPDE to TT or autocross.

You buy a bunch of hardware that is highly tuneable, learn to tune it. We'll be right there with info on how to go through the process of learning what adjustments do what. We'd rather educate you on how to set the car up than to take a guess on what we think you might need and possibly steer you in the wrong direction.

When it comes to starting points, they are just that. If you don't care how optimized your set up is, then just pick a baseline and leave it. If you do care about optimizing then you are the only one on the planet that knows what you like and what you need. You are going to do sweeps through all the settings so starting point isn't as critical. We'll publish a single baseline to start with but strongly encourage owners to "mess with it" to find their own sweet spot.

as others have mentioned, piston size is not the same as shaft diameter.

aftermarket is larger, yes, but

1) if it's very expensive, usually it's a proprietary/own design for pistons, so the size varies based on application need, or
2) if cost is of concern to manufacturer, they often outsource to the same handful of shock component makers. it's why half the aftermarket shocks have the same "46mm" piston because it's all made by BC or someone copying BC's design.

A smaller shaft diameter is actually better when possible because then you have more of the surface area of the piston available for tuning damping characteristics.

Should also mention that the all Xida kits will ship with two sets of "camber chips"; one low offset, one high offset. The chip is the eccentric insert in the flange that locates the mounting bolt. Each chip can be flipped into either higher or lower camber. So you have four possible camber positions. The lowest of four camber positions should equate to about -.75° degree at OEM ride height, stock basically. From there you can add camber by flipping or swapping chips and also by lowering the ride height. The intent is to make it possible for drivers to reach camber ranges usually beyond even the best aftermarket camber plates, but without requiring camber plates at all. This makes setting up the suspension more affordable.

Of course, drivers can still run camber plates and either add camber by adjusting plates, using the chips or a combination of both.

Based on a lot of tire pyrometer, AIM data, driver feedback and tire wear, we know the 86 can often use up to -4.5° camber up front with certain tire and wheel combos. Even with crash bolts and camber plates, we never got near that on Blub unless we ran the car so low the suspension stopped working. We aim to fix that :)

Sign me up :)

Hopefully being a club orange member works for the 86 platform stuff too!

Offset camber inserts like rally coilovers have:w00t:? Both ensurance against slipping and ability to use stronger against sheering/thicker OE bolts even while having several camber choices. I'd sometimes wish for this to be more widespread among coilovers makers, as seems not too expensive, but very advantageous on many accounts solution to camber change (of course, for fine adjustments better paired with another, like single set of camberbolts or camberplates).

I am assuming that the spring packages will be interchangeable? As in i can swap between the street and the race springs without having to send the suspension in to get the settings(valving, dampening, etc) changed?


Will there be a group buy for the initial run?

Yes, that's correct.

What would the rebuild price per corner be? Will the rebuild be local to the US or will it have to be ship outside? Thanks, can't wait to see how the final product looks and functions.

They are supposedly rebuilt by inertia labs, which is in the US (based on their journal iirc). Pricing wise, I am not to sure they had said anything about it

Standard 2.5" diameter front and 2.25" diameter rear springs. Readily available from several manufacturers globally. One could also purchase the optional spring pack from us to swap back and forth. Same shock.

We have never run a GB so not likely we will for the 86 Xida. Generally, the stuff we launch is eagerly anticipated and tends to sell out quickly. We will also produce the same number of kits regardless, not contingent on pre-orders. Price will be fixed, again not connected to how may pre-orders we might get. They are also our own unique design with mostly proprietary components. Meaning no other shop on the planet has them, not even Tractive. GB's are generally for shops that are just reselling something out of a catalog, not a private label product. GB's also for shops that don't actually stock the product, just passing them through for minimal profit as basically a handling fee.

When spec is finalized and they are in production, we'll accept pre-orders for the first batch of 40 kits.


Our authorized US service & warranty center is Inertia Labs in Plano, TX. http://www.inertialaboratory.com/
Chris should be able to quote rebuilds now as he has seen the prototypes and knows what parts they have in them. IIRC, it's usually $150-200 per shock but best check with him of the actual number is critical to you.