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feldy 08-03-2012 01:33 PM

Why delete the sound tube?
 
So I reading from a lot of people that they want to delete the sound tube? But they want a cai, headers ect? I don't get it.. or maybe I missed a thread somewhere.

People want the better exhaust and cai for performance and sound.. but then why remove the sound tube? :sigh:

armythug 08-03-2012 01:40 PM

I'd rather listen to my music and hear the person sitting next to me. :happy0180:

2forme 08-03-2012 02:05 PM

It's not THAT loud...

SkullWorks 08-03-2012 02:07 PM

because at 5000-6000 rpm at constant throttle application the vibration of the tube hitting manifold ounds like detonation and is shitty

neutron256 08-03-2012 02:34 PM

I think the real question is why is it there in the first place. It's not like this is some luxury car that's so well insulated you can't hear the engin at all. I don't need the extra weight to pipe extra noise inside the cabin.

I'm actually headed to the shop this afternoon to machine a set of plugs to delete the sound tube.

HunterGreene 08-03-2012 02:38 PM

The reason is that its a functionless part, it doesn't really add anything to the car (though apparently there is a very small hp loss when its taken out) other than being able to hear the engine sound/noise more clearly.

Opposed 08-03-2012 02:43 PM

To clean up the engine bay, less clutter.

Most aftermarket intakes will produce more sound then the soundtube will be able to produce.

What I want to know is why people don't understand that an aftermarket intake will allow you to hear it clearly through the cabin of the car without a sound tube...

CBR600RR 08-03-2012 02:44 PM

it is the cars appendix

SVTSHC 08-03-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by neutron256 (Post 357345)
I think the real question is why is it there in the first place. It's not like this is some luxury car that's so well insulated you can't hear the engin at all. I don't need the extra weight to pipe extra noise inside the cabin.

I'm actually headed to the shop this afternoon to machine a set of plugs to delete the sound tube.

Quote:

Originally Posted by neutron256 (Post 357345)
It's not like this is some luxury car that's so well insulated you can't hear the engin at all. I don't need the extra weight to pipe extra noise inside the cabin.

Quote:

Originally Posted by neutron256 (Post 357345)
I don't need the extra weight to pipe extra noise inside the cabin.

Quote:

Originally Posted by neutron256 (Post 357345)
I don't need the extra weight

Quote:

Originally Posted by neutron256 (Post 357345)
the extra weight

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Originally Posted by neutron256 (Post 357345)
extra weight

That was a typo right? Or am I misunderstanding what you wrote.

Propaganda 08-03-2012 03:28 PM

lol ^

Boosted2.0 08-03-2012 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by feldy (Post 357201)
So I reading from a lot of people that they want to delete the sound tube? But they want a cai, headers ect? I don't get it.. or maybe I missed a thread somewhere.

People want the better exhaust and cai for performance and sound.. but then why remove the sound tube? :sigh:

Who knows. I have driven with it disconnected, and vastly prefer having it hooked up.

neutron256 08-03-2012 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SVTSHC (Post 357379)
That was a typo right? Or am I misunderstanding what you wrote.

I'm not sure how you're reading it but no typo.

The sound tube/resonator is extra cost and weight in the design of the car. It's function is to pump engine noise inside the cabin. If anything I want less engine noise inside not more. If sound is a byproduct of a performance upgrade that's fine but why fake it?

In my opinion there is more then ample audio feedback from the engine without the sound tube. If however you just want your car to sound louder (which many do) it's a great little device.

Sportsguy83 08-03-2012 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CBR600RR (Post 357372)
it is the cars appendix

I Laughed pretty hard!

sho220 08-03-2012 04:15 PM

Q: Why delete the sound tube?
A: Because it's there.

20valvewynn83 08-03-2012 04:21 PM

The sound generator is placed in this car so people can learn their engine. learning the engine is a key factor into racing because some times you cant look at your tack to see where your at and you need to use the sound to know when to shift. This is good when racing cars that are loud because you can distinguish your car from their cars.

Propaganda 08-03-2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by neutron256 (Post 357541)
I'm not sure how you're reading it but no typo.

Not trying to be a d**k, but it was questioned because its weight is negligible.... pretty much the difference between eating or not, or pooping or not, or having a backpack or not, or having a guitar or not, or being fatter or not, or.....

eriktherod 08-03-2012 04:33 PM

Basically, it falls under these categories of questions:

1) Does it make the car go faster? No.
2) Does it make the car any safer? No.
3) Does it make the car handle any better? No.
4) Does it make the car look any better? No.
5) Does it make the car lighter? No.

Why is it still attached to the car? :D

WolfsFang 08-03-2012 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eriktherod (Post 357627)
Basically, it falls under these categories of questions:

1) Does it make the car go faster? No.
2) Does it make the car any safer? No.
3) Does it make the car handle any better? No.
4) Does it make the car look any better? No.
5) Does it make the car lighter? No.

Why is it still attached to the car? :D

as stated it makes it so you can hear the engine itself without looking at the tach. I almost never look at my tach when up/down shifting thanks to the sound the car is making.

eriktherod 08-03-2012 04:39 PM

I understand that whole driving by the seat of your pants deal. Is the Boxer really that quiet without it? I am very curious, I may debate doing the delete when I get the crank pulley done.

HunterGreene 08-03-2012 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 20valvewynn83 (Post 357603)
The sound generator is placed in this car so people can learn their engine. learning the engine is a key factor into racing because some times you cant look at your tack to see where your at and you need to use the sound to know when to shit. This is good when racing cars that are loud because you can distinguish your car from their cars.

I usually wait until after I get home to do that. Or maybe before I leave the house.

:bellyroll: :lol:

sho220 08-03-2012 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 20valvewynn83 (Post 357603)
you need to use the sound to know when to shit.

Exactly!

eriktherod 08-03-2012 05:01 PM

Oh man.. I want a Johnny Tran "VTEC JUST KICKED IN, YO" photoshop with a bathroom background. Who's up for it?

FT-86GOD 08-03-2012 05:01 PM

WHY DELETE... http://sycographix.co.uk/shop/images...RACE%20CAR.jpg !!!!

Propaganda 08-03-2012 05:01 PM

LOL, nice catch

Propaganda 08-03-2012 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by eriktherod (Post 357684)
Oh man.. I want a Johnny Tran "VTEC JUST KICKED IN, YO" photoshop with a bathroom background. Who's up for it?

Too soon, junior

Flat Black VW 08-03-2012 05:18 PM

I personally just wanted to clean out the engine bay from useless BS. It does next to nothing so whats the point in having some big ugly thing running from your intake to your cabin. Plus every time anyone looks under my hood they ask me what the hell it is, then I have to explain that my lightweight "sports car" has a bunch of pointless plastic and rubber running through the engine bay so it can make me think my car is louder than it is.

eriktherod 08-03-2012 05:32 PM

Yeah, I agree completely there. I had a similar situation here at work. I already get enough because they're American muscle guys and "it's a Scion" (not for TOO long!) and then, "what's this for?" Yeah... :(

HunterGreene 08-03-2012 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flat Black VW (Post 357727)
I personally just wanted to clean out the engine bay from useless BS. It does next to nothing so whats the point in having some big ugly thing running from your intake to your cabin. Plus every time anyone looks under my hood they ask me what the hell it is, then I have to explain that my lightweight "sports car" has a bunch of pointless plastic and rubber running through the engine bay so it can make me think my car is louder than it is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eriktherod (Post 357753)
Yeah, I agree completely there. I had a similar situation here at work. I already get enough because they're American muscle guys and "it's a Scion" (not for TOO long!) and then, "what's this for?" Yeah... :(

Or you could lie and tell them its the pre-piping for NOS! :bonk:

20valvewynn83 08-03-2012 06:15 PM

Damn hahaha now that's funny you know what I mean. But that shit is funny lol!!!!

xjohnx 08-03-2012 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eriktherod (Post 357753)
Yeah, I agree completely there. I had a similar situation here at work. I already get enough because they're American muscle guys and "it's a Scion" (not for TOO long!) and then, "what's this for?" Yeah... :(

Pretty sure the new mustangs have this as well, at least the 300hp v6's do.

WolfsFang 08-03-2012 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eriktherod (Post 357684)
Oh man.. I want a Johnny Tran "VTEC JUST KICKED IN, YO" photoshop with a bathroom background. Who's up for it?

you mean like this?
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...man14/vtec.png

neutron256 08-03-2012 08:25 PM

My delete is finished. So much better!

Just my opinion but not only should they not be piping more sound into the cabin, but the sound produced is hollow and fake sounding. With it gone I realize that it almost sound like an exhaust leak.

neutron256 08-03-2012 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBR600RR (Post 357372)
it is the cars appendix

Yep looks about right to me :bellyroll:

Human Appendix:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1532

BRZ Appendix:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1533

BRAWL 08-04-2012 12:10 AM

Think I will remove my one, but will wait and see once I get it.

Think removing it makes sense

Nafe 08-04-2012 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neutron256 (Post 358443)
Yep looks about right to me :bellyroll:

Human Appendix:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1532

BRZ Appendix:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=1533

I actually LOL'd :D

JTM 08-06-2012 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eriktherod (Post 357753)
Yeah, I agree completely there. I had a similar situation here at work. I already get enough because they're American muscle guys and "it's a Scion" (not for TOO long!) and then, "what's this for?" Yeah... :(


Yeah, I was at a meet on Saturday and one of the Challenger guys points to it and say, "man you have a lot of emissions crap".

Interestingly most of the guys I spoke to walked up and already knew what it was and wanted to know when I was going to get it out on the track.

eikond 08-06-2012 01:28 PM

I hate the noise.. it just reminds me of the lack of power. Nothing worse than making a bunch of noise and not going anywhere.. It's like a Dodge pickup truck.

I'm all for a quieter cabin on the inside.. If I want more noise it should be from mods that actually make the car faster (exhaust, turbo, etc..)

YukiHachiRoku 08-06-2012 01:35 PM

this thread is hilarious! :bellyroll:

AJUSA.com 08-06-2012 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eikond (Post 362281)
I'm all for a quieter cabin on the inside.. If I want more noise it should be from mods that actually make the car faster (exhaust, turbo, etc..)

My thoughts exactly.

Lytheum 08-06-2012 02:16 PM

i let my friend drive the car and i sat on the passenger side. i was surprised how much louder it sounds! it doesnt really make any difference to me though. if/when i get an intake it will be going away.


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