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Obja 08-03-2012 04:08 AM

Scion PURE PRICE
 
Does this mean i will get the car for $26,030 (auto) no matter what?

with 3.1% for 60 months... sense it's on the website?

Can someone explain it to me. As well as how much you paid?

if there is already a thread for this please link me.

Could not find one.

Cheers

:thumbsup:

86_ZN6 08-03-2012 04:10 AM

scion should be pure price. what you see is what you pay

but dealers put extra options to the car so they can make more money

example: leather seats, heated seats, some POS wheels, tints and etc


i paid msrp for manual

Sigh-on-Rice 08-03-2012 04:44 AM

Whiteout would cost $220 more also.

fistpoint 08-03-2012 06:30 AM

How is this for simple? Pure Price in a nutshell means you pay whatever is written on the sticker. Yes, you should begin laughing now...hysterically.

Toyota claims they were approached by customers over the years looking for an easier way of purchasing vehicles, citing the haggling process as an annoyance. Toyota, in its infinite wisdom, gave customers what they want by simply removing the haggling process! Uh...thanks, I think(not really).

To follow the rules a dealer simply has to have the price the same for all customers posted on the sticker, their website, and the price menu in the lobby. MSRP has nothing to do with Pure Price and is never mentioned once on their website. If they want to sell them for $153,499 they can.

Pure Price is akin to walking into any dealership for any model of car and simply paying the sticker. If you've been reading along you should now be fully aware that Pure Price is Pure Bullshit.

One day in the not so distant future you'll be able to buy the Subaru base model for a couple hundred over its invoice price, which in turn will be only a few hundred more($300-$400) than the MSRP of the FR-S. Right now there is an almost $1300 difference between the twins MSRP's, but since you cannot haggle the Scion it will be at a severe disadvantage when the BRZ isn't flying off the showroom floors anymore.

FRSowner 08-03-2012 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obja (Post 356578)
Does this mean i will get the car for $26,030 (auto) no matter what?

:thumbsup:

In theory, yes. That's exactly what I paid for mine. If the dealership wanted to play any games or couldn't get me the car NOW (not in 8 - 12 weeks), I walked out. From the time I decided I wanted the car and secured my funds to the time I drove off the lot with a FR-S was less than a week.
I'm sure there are some salesman that are telling others about the 'asshole FR-S customer' that had all the demands, but they can go fuck themselves. I got the car I wanted at the price I wanted when I wanted it.
Don't be so excited about this car that you make a financial decision based on passion rather than facts and logic. The dealerships are there to serve YOU, you are not at their mercy. Without customers, they wouldn't have jobs. Many of these salespeople do forget that.

ngabdala 08-03-2012 08:09 AM

That's the most intelligent thing I've seen someone write on this forum in awhile. A gave up a few months back trying to explain this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fistpoint (Post 356683)
How is this for simple? Pure Price in a nutshell means you pay whatever is written on the sticker. Yes, you should begin laughing now...hysterically.

Toyota claims they were approached by customers over the years looking for an easier way of purchasing vehicles, citing the haggling process as an annoyance. Toyota, in its infinite wisdom, gave customers what they want by simply removing the haggling process! Uh...thanks, I think(not really).

To follow the rules a dealer simply has to have the price the same for all customers posted on the sticker, their website, and the price menu in the lobby. MSRP has nothing to do with Pure Price and is never mentioned once on their website. If they want to sell them for $153,499 they can.

Pure Price is akin to walking into any dealership for any model of car and simply paying the sticker. If you've been reading along you should now be fully aware that Pure Price is Pure Bullshit.

One day in the not so distant future you'll be able to buy the Subaru base model for a couple hundred over its invoice price, which in turn will be only a few hundred more($300-$400) than the MSRP of the FR-S. Right now there is an almost $1300 difference between the twins MSRP's, but since you cannot haggle the Scion it will be at a severe disadvantage when the BRZ isn't flying off the showroom floors anymore.


random 08-03-2012 11:46 AM

The definition of "Pure Price" is very succinctly stated on Scion's web site:

http://www.scion.com/buy/pure_price/
YOUR SCION
NO HAGGLE. NO HASSLE.

PURE PRICE - A DEFINITION
Pure Price means that the dealer price you see posted - in an ad, on the dealer's website, or on a menu display board in the dealership - is the price you will pay. This includes vehicles, accessories, and even finance and insurance products.
Notice the very first thing it says: "NO HAGGLE". There is nothing in there which states that pure price is the lowest price, even though that's exactly what is more commonly expected for no apparent reason.

Propaganda 08-03-2012 12:03 PM

Pure price is both good and bad... I think it's more on the bad side, as it can easily be exploited, as mentioned.

When I had gotten my 08 tc... I actually paid less than the pure price/msrp. Yes. Don't ask me how. It wasn't by a whole lot, but it was still something.

What annoys me is that I went to a mitsubishi dealership, talked with a salesman for a few minutes and got $5k chopped of msrp for a brand new 2012 evo x. That was just talking for a few minutes. I'm sure I could have gotten another $1k off if I stayed around a bit longer. A bargain for the car, as used ones with little miles were still up there in price. Scion? nope. $5k less and it's a lot less of a car. But don't get me wrong, it's a hell of a car. Still glad I went with it, instead.

WolfsFang 08-03-2012 12:36 PM

i got my car a little cheaper since i was the first at the dealer and even one of the first on the east coast :D!

empower-auto 08-03-2012 12:38 PM

Pure price is all good so far. The prices have been very good. The dealer's aren't making huge bank on our cars.

Obja 08-03-2012 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by random (Post 356987)
The definition of "Pure Price" is very succinctly stated on Scion's web site:

http://www.scion.com/buy/pure_price/
YOUR SCION
NO HAGGLE. NO HASSLE.

PURE PRICE - A DEFINITION
Pure Price means that the dealer price you see posted - in an ad, on the dealer's website, or on a menu display board in the dealership - is the price you will pay. This includes vehicles, accessories, and even finance and insurance products.
Notice the very first thing it says: "NO HAGGLE". There is nothing in there which states that pure price is the lowest price, even though that's exactly what is more commonly expected for no apparent reason.


Yeah that's what i was trying to figure out. I want to pay $26,030 but the sticker is $26,530

I guess i'll stop being cheap >.<

Hanakuso 08-03-2012 12:45 PM

What everyone else said. Also I noticed around late summer/fall some dealerships will discount a little on models that are about enter the next year if that makes sense. That wouldn't include the 2013 FRS around now but it would on say a Scion 2012 iQ

m.box.design 08-03-2012 12:46 PM

Different dealerships have put their own little (or big) markups on top of the msrp. But it looks like the dealers who've been trying to make a killing off of naive customers have had it backfire in their face, seeing inventory sit on their lots for extended periods of time. Everyone knows they can get one at or closer to MSRP elsewhere.

r4m3n 08-03-2012 01:28 PM

Don't forget the $1000 education rebate if you qualify. Sweetens the deal if you recently graduated or enrolled in a graduate degree program.


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