hum...... u really not going to stop this,
i had track the stock car in the same circuit 6times

then i move to the tire and brake
also got a seat just because corner 2
right now, got harrys laptimer and gopro

so will get that gap number on my next track day


i understand wut r u trying to say, and that s y i keep my stock suspension


try the re71 first, i think u will love it!

As far as I know, @wparsons likely has quite a bit more seat time than you do. You’re doing yourself a disservice to be shit canning the advice he’s giving you...

6 times, you're basically an expert then... I'm only trying to help, but you're clearly not looking for actual help.


If you're not super consistent lap after lap, any data you collect needs statistical analysis on it to see if the change you made actually made you faster, or if your best lap was just a fluke (or weather conditions).


What do I know though, not like I instruct with multiple local groups. :bonk:

First of all, I am make this post for the clearance on my set up
245 40 17 on 17x8 +45 on stock suspension with -1.5camber on front
Is there any rubbing issue
How ever I did not get that and u was trying sell me -3camber
When I am not even know I could fit -1.5 yet :offtopic:

Secondly, I am being polite tell u wut My thoughts , and I will do it slowly step by step!
However, u just don’t buy it.:iono:

Later, u trying tell me change the tire .........
I am politely tell u my thoughts agin :bonk:

Now u r talking about my driving
And saying I am just not here for help?
So I am here to have a wrangle with u?

Plz next time before post something, trying to understand the poster ‘s goal first
U don’t even have used that tire this is one thing
U don’t know how Am i driving this is another
U don’t know how I want build my car either
There is just too much unknown for u to judge

Plz think before talk!


We all study from mistakes, and stop the game “throw ur opinion out follow by a nice polite sentence”


U had done the same thing many times in my other post too
Please just block me :thanks:

Guys, OP just wants to "buy time", he isnt willing to learn to drive faster, move on.

@ZDan and @wparsons I happen to do time attack on the A052 (bought them along with Nittos NT01 to compare, they are faster, go figure) and regarding the times, they do fall off after a lap of extracting the absolute maximum, but if you do not overdrive them they can be within a few tenths for 5-6 laps. The difference in time when overdriving is actually not that great so I've learned to rather than push them hard from the get go, to avoid overdriving on them. They are also much more sensitive to track temperature, lasting much more on a cool day than they do on a hot day. I dont know since I havent driven on RE71R, but I imagine they are quite similar.

Lap times when managing them (the one lap at 58.8 had big slide coming out of the last turn into the main straight, rest were clean):
https://i.imgur.com/NYYAw6A.png

Lap times when pushing all out (thus, overdriving the tire a bit everywhere):
https://imgur.com/JEyrRq4.png

Different tracks I know, but I figured you guys might find this interesting.

You asked about the camber and showed a picture of a tire that shows you need a lot more than -1.5* of camber. The intention was to help you not waste money by doing something that won't fix the problem. Next time I'll just let you spend money on parts and alignment and find that it doesn't fix it all on your own.



See above. There's no need to go through this step by step, -1.5* simply won't be enough regardless of the rest of your suspension setup. Again, trying to save you time and money.



Yes, because there are tires better suited to lapping than what you're on. Tires that will last longer, take more heat/abuse without falling off, and be more forgiving of a less than perfect setup.


It doesn't come off that way, it comes off as you not listening to experienced advice because you feel like you know better.



That came up because you admitted you're not consistent, but then also said you're trying to get the fastest possible time. The two don't work together, you HAVE to be consistent to be fast. Only then can you actually measure the difference a change has made.



Next time you ask for advice, have an open enough mind to realize that what you're asking for might not be a good idea and that you should be open to other ideas.


You asked for help to stop ruining the outer edge of your tires. As I (and many others!) have said, -1.5* isn't going to help. Sorry it's not the answer you wanted, but it's a simple fact. Go for it though, you'll easily clear on stock suspension and that wheels/tires. Come back in a couple weeks when it made no difference and ask for what to do next.


Even with stiff coilovers and sway bars, you're going to need around -3* up front to not roast the outside edge like that, so why screw around with intermediate setups that won't help?




You have a habit of not listening to advice... you just want confirmation on your own idea.

@wparsons You haven't heard of this new super secret squirrel setup? All us running 200TW tires with 6k springs, sways, and -3/-2 camber are doing it wrong :thumbsup:

i am back, with some pic.


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this is alignment, just wanna be clean with my question,
17x8 +45 245 40 17

stock suspension
with -1.5 camber both front and rear
no cleaners issue at all
any one who is using this set up is good to go
and my tire wearing is pretty good, but not going to set personal best tho
here is the new video for track day


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72HigUE5P1Q[/ame]



[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLwCQtgIxDk[/ame]


more detail will be in member's journal


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136068